Narrow Gauge Downloads - Clarification Requested

dforrest · Post by **dforrest** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 9:56 pm

There have been a lot of narrow gauge downloads recently, both stock and routes and I am confused! Could someone possibly summaries what stock is for which routes and what narrow gauge "type" they are (I believe the two types I am referring to are "x2" and "truescale")?

kevmt · Post by **kevmt** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 2:48 pm

The haute somme route is 2x
The welshpool route is truescale but uses 3ft gauge track.

All duckweeds stock is truescale (2' 4")
SP672 's dick kerrs diesel is 2x and truescale.
Tims Irish mail is 2x

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Kevin

dforrest · Post by **dforrest** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 6:22 pm

kevmt wrote:The haute somme route is 2x
The welshpool route is truescale but uses 3ft gauge track.

All duckweeds stock is truescale (2' 4")
SP672 's dick kerrs diesel is 2x and truescale.
Tims Irish mail is 2x

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Kevin

Yes, thanks.

What is the Welshpool & Llanfair route?

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Frsimplex1993 · Post by **Frsimplex1993** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 6:26 pm

dforrest wrote: What is the Welshpool & Llanfair route?

It is another Narrow Gauge Railway in Wales the Route is done by PWHolmes!!

smudge5609 · Post by **smudge5609** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 6:34 pm

dforrest wrote:What is the Welshpool & Llanfair route?

I have not installed it yet, but I am pretty sure that it is a 3ft route and you'll need Xtrack installed to run it.

Cheers, Chris

dforrest · Post by **dforrest** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 6:43 pm

It would appear then that there is no route to run Duckweed's stock on.

gopher · Post by **gopher** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 6:59 pm

Not sure what gauge Duckweeds stock is but the UKN* track on the Bala Hub is approx 2' for truescale Ffestiniog stuff. Only problem is it's just the bit around Blaenau Central.

Gordon

sp762 · Post by **sp762** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 9:27 pm

http://forums.atomic-systems.com/viewtopic.php?t=19923

Hopefully mailed by the end of the week.

dforrest · Post by **dforrest** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 9:30 pm

gopher wrote:Not sure what gauge Duckweeds stock is but the UKNG track on the Bala Hub is approx 2' for truescale Ffestiniog stuff. Only problem is it's just the bit around Blaenau Central.

Gordon

.... and I assume from the earlier post of kevmt that duckweed's stock and (from your post) the Ffestiniog Railway Truescale stock, are 2'-4" gauge. Taking this assumption further, the only route to run this on is the NG section of Bala Hub.

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sp762 · Post by **sp762** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:01 pm

dforrest wrote:
gopher wrote:Not sure what gauge Duckweeds stock is but the UKNG track on the Bala Hub is approx 2' for truescale Ffestiniog stuff. Only problem is it's just the bit around Blaenau Central.

Gordon
.... and I assume from the earlier post of kevmt that duckweed's stock and (from your post) the Ffestiniog Railway Truescale stock, are 2'-4" gauge. Taking this assumption further, the only route to run this on is the NG section of Bala Hub.

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Items labelled "Truescale" are intended to run on the UKN* track standard, and represent 2' stock. The UKN standard is actually about 2'4".

Items labelled UKNG or 2x are designed to run on standard track, and are doubled in all dimensions so they don't look silly.

The other set of standards runs on the Xtracks Narrow Gauge track, and is 3' gauge. The emergaing Southwold Railway, and Paul Holmes' Welshpool and Llanfair use this track.

There is currently no truescale route - but I'm working on it.

http://forums.atomic-systems.com/viewtopic.php?t=13896

dforrest · Post by **dforrest** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 5:26 pm

sp762 wrote:Items labelled "Truescale" are intended to run on the UKN* track standard, and represent 2' stock. The UKN standard is actually about 2'4".

Items labelled UKNG or 2x are designed to run on standard track, and are doubled in all dimensions so they don't look silly.

The other set of standards runs on the Xtracks Narrow Gauge track, and is 3' gauge. The emergaing Southwold Railway, and Paul Holmes' Welshpool and Llanfair use this track.

There is currently no truescale route - but I'm working on it.

http://forums.atomic-systems.com/viewtopic.php?t=13896

Now I am even more confused. The following is a quote from the details of the "WLLR The Countess" download:

"The loco is truescale and should be run on the W&L that can be uploaded from UK Trainsim."

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andrewgadd · Post by **andrewgadd** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:28 pm

I sure the quote is incorrect, the "Countess" is quite definitely built to run on XTracks 3ft gauge.

dforrest · Post by **dforrest** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 9:56 pm

Would one of you enterprising narrow gaugers be prepared to draw up a list/table of the three narrow gauges available and the MSTS routes and stock currently available for each?

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sp762 · Post by **sp762** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 11:21 pm

Items that I label "Truescale" are intended to run on the UKN* track standard, and represent 2' stock. The UKN standard is actually about 2'4".

Items labelled UKNG or 2x are designed to run on standard track, and are doubled in all dimensions so they don't look silly.

The other set of standards runs on the Xtracks Narrow Gauge track, and is intended to represent tracks between 2'5" and 3' gauge. Let's call this XN.

So then. Some UKNG (2x) routes:

Talyllyn
Ffestiniog
Haute Somme

Some XN routes:

W&L
Southwold

Some Truescale routes:

The little bit in Ruabon-Bala
The SWLR (to be released in Alpha soon)

Can I propose that builders adopt this taxonomy, and update downloads accordingly?

Mike

steamystef · Post by **steamystef** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:27 am

Hello,

Just to complete the range for XTracks Narrow Gauge track, I suggest to add the meter gauge in the rane giving: between 2'5" and meter gauge called XN!

This evening, I give you some snapshot from my new route 'Warnant - Lesves' in Belgium. A meter gauge line for our vicinal Tramway!

Stef