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Tom Rolt

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 12:38 pm
by trainmad
Is anybody planning to do Tom Rolt for the tallylyn railway. If they did a reskin of it as Ivor Hugh would be nice.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 2:31 pm
by kevmt
Yes, but not sure of a completion date.

Kevin

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 4:38 pm
by pitleyfalley
Ohh No.7 would be nice!!! You will have your work cut out on the lining on that aswell Kevin, now that we have put the groovy little corners on it, to try and break up the rectangles. Which to be honest made it look a little too modern for the Talyllyn. Would also be a nice engine to rejigg the eng files for.. being somewhat more powerfull than everything else apart from No.1. Also weighs a fair bit more aswell. (although has quite poor traction) :roll:

So then all we will need is No.6 in its various (4 guises) and we will have the entire fleet! :D

Christian

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 5:24 pm
by kevmt
I,ve seen the new lining on Tom Rolt and I think it look awful. I will probably stick with the original.

Cheers

Kevin

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 7:34 pm
by pitleyfalley
I think the new lining is much nicer. It really adds a bit of charcater to n otherwise bland and somewhat boring engine. the loco is made up basically of squares in some shape or form... However the lining really does help to break that up. Some people do hate it, (all of the TR purists for one) however i think it is much nicer.

Christian

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 8:14 pm
by rwaceyw
I'd do Ivo Hugh, and a proper duncan when they both come out...

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 6:39 pm
by trainmad
The whole fleet. What about Edward Thomas aka Peter Sam.

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 6:54 pm
by rwaceyw
I'm making peter sam from Kevin's No.4 when he releases it & if its ok with him.

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 7:00 pm
by trainmad
Yes.

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 7:06 pm
by rwaceyw
And then we only need No.5 and the original no.7 ( do you know about this one chris? ) and we have them all!

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 11:20 am
by pitleyfalley
No technically we need 5,8,9 and 10 plus the original No.7 'Charlies Ant' which was the little mercury tractor which got bu**ered hauling 4 back when it derailed, as they trashed the engine all the way from brynglas, and it was never designed to haul 8 tons of dead No.4! The loco could only work in forwards gear and when they got up the line they had to jack it round and run it back forwards.

We would also require the motor trolley which is an essential bit of TR equipment! :wink: and does a suprisingly good turn of speed.

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 12:31 pm
by rwaceyw
Never heard of 8, 9 or 10. What are they?
I know there was a trial engine which used ship parts, was that one?

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 4:30 pm
by pitleyfalley
Right I think you may be thinking of the original No.5, which used the engine out of Tom Rolts canal boat 'Cressy'.

No.5 "Midlander"

Maker Ruston & Hornsby Year 1940 Wheel arrangement 4w
Wheel diameter 18" Wheelbase 3' 4 1/2" Engine 4VRH
Transmission 3-speed constant mesh gears with multiple clutches, chain drive Power 53 bhp at 1100 rpm Weight 7 tons Livery Standard deep bronze green Notes Rebuilt with engine, transmission and superstructure of works number 200800, re-entering service 1980.

No.8 "Merseysider"

Maker Ruston & Hornsby Year 1964 Wheel arrangement 4w
Wheel diameter 19" Wheelbase 3' 6" Engine 3YDA, air-cooled
Transmission Dowty hydrostatic transmission, chain drive
Power 50 bhp at 1600 rpm Weight 7 tons Livery Maroon, lined blue and edged black Notes Incorporates parts of two locomotives; a major and protracted overhaul is now complete

No.9 "Alf"

Maker Hunslet Engine Company Year 1950 Wheel arrangement 0-4-0
Wheel diameter 24" Wheelbase 4' 3" Engine Gardner 4LW Transmission 2-speed mechanical transmission, jackshaft drive Power 75 bhp at 1700 rpm Weight 10 tons Livery Standard deep bronze green Notes Incorporates parts of another loco, stored at Brynglas


No.10 "Bryn Eglwys"

Maker Simplex Year 1985 Wheel arrangement 4w Wheel diameter 24"
Wheelbase Engine Dorman 6DA Transmission 2-speed torque converter; final drive comprises drop box, right angle gearbox and chains to both axles. Power 100bhp Weight 9 tons Livery Yellow

Chris

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 7:02 pm
by rwaceyw
pitleyfalley wrote:Right I think you may be thinking of the original No.5, which used the engine out of Tom Rolts canal boat 'Cressy'.
Yeah that's it. Ihave the Talylyn Past and Present Special and saw it in there.

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 9:22 pm
by pitleyfalley
Yes No.5 'Rolts Folley' was a rather nice little machine.. used till Midlander arrived in 1953... along with No.6

Chris