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Ive had a word with Kevin, when i mentioned making No.4, it is going to have the normal funnel, the giesel oblong ejector (to quote the full name) was only fitted for about 8 years (67-74?) It didnt do a great dela except ruin the locos appearance.

without it it can run it all of its guises, whearas with it it will be stuck to Talyllyn Green.

Chris

pitleyfalley wrote:
without it it can run it all of its guises, whearas with it it will be stuck to Talyllyn Green.

Chris

I hope those guises include its latest livery, BR black! That'd really be fun....

John

Hmm im not so sure. I didnt like the black very much. Made the engine look very dark and i dont think it suited it....

My favorite colour scheme for No.4 has always been Talyllyn Green. The Peter Sam colours didnt look very good (better on No.6 anyway) and I dont think that the Br black was very nice either.

When it is returned to traffic it may do a spell in BR Black before being returned to Talyllyn Green which it hasnt carried since the 70's. That is the general consensus so far.

Christian

pitleyfalley wrote:When it is returned to traffic it may do a spell in BR Black before being returned to Talyllyn Green which it hasnt carried since the 70's. That is the general consensus so far.

Christian

Not since the 70s??? I'm sure I can remember seeing her in Green, and I'm only 24. Have also seen her in 2 shades of red (and the Corris shade was much nicer than the other) and black.

The black was nice as a gimmick, which is why I would like to see it. It was fun, if totally inacccurate, but I would also like to see the green and Corris red versions as well.

John

Personally I like the Peter Sam Green!
I don't know what type of green it is but it works well!

I think it's different from the Talyllyn Green though
It's much better than all of the Little Engines being PINK!

I like their proper colors better
Skarloey-red
Rheneas-red
Sir Handle-blue
Peter Sam-green
Rusty-faded orange
Duncan-brassy yellow
I don't know what Ivo Hugh's would be......only seen him on the cover of a book

Oh and can somone tell Kevin that I need his help on Cora?
He knows what I mean by "Cora"......and I need help from him!!
I'm worried......

sillyevan27 wrote: I like their proper colors better
Skarloey-red
Rheneas-red
Sir Handle-blue
Peter Sam-green
Rusty-faded orange
Duncan-brassy yellow

Now hold on just a minute

The little railway locomotives were all red (scarlet in fact) in the books, except for Duke, who was always a dark tan. Obviously when Britt/Gulliane/HET/whoever has the franchise this week came to make the tv series of the little engines they thought that Wilbert and Chris Awdrey's idea of a corporate identity was a no-no. Or maybe its because in the books Falcon was blue and Stuart was green and it was too much hassle to repaint the models. Remember in the books that both "much preferred their new coats and names". How Duncan ended up bright yellow I'll never know.

John

I've decided to do the Corris railway no 4 loco first. (early WIP below)



Then I will rebuild the neccesary parts to turn it into Edward Thomas (as did the Talyllyn railway). This shouldn't actually delay the release of ET much.

At the moment I plan to issue ET in Talyllyn green, GWR green and the black livery (which I quite like).

Cheers
Kevin

That looks great Kevin.

When you mention Cora i presume you mean the Corris Van?

The liverys Brit Alcroft adopted were the liveries carried by the engines when on the railway that Duke lived on (Based on the Ffes/Corris) Sir Handel was green as Falcon (built by Falcon of Loughborough) and Peter Sam was blue as Stuart (Built by Kerr Stuart)

Brit Alcroft did not change the liveries at all, wheras in the proper Thomas Books they went into the Corporte red (like the real engines were painted Talyllyn Green)

No.4 was in steam in Talyllyn green in 1981 before the Thomas Colours.... and went into the awful red in 1984, when No.3 worked the season downhill.

No.4 came back into traffic in 1958 after having its previous boiler condemned.... the geisel ejector was fitted in 1958, and removed at some point before 1970, it then ran till 1983 in TR green with the normal funnel

Chris

Pitleyfalley!!
I know the all of that Thomas stuff!!

Haven't you seen the Thomas threads on this site?!?!
Search "sillyevan27" and you'll see I'm a genius at Thomas and Sodor facts
<-Also stands for Einstein's hair do!


And yes I am reskinning Kevin's Corris Van into "Cora the Guard's Van" from the Skarloey Rly. (minus the face )
Then I'll be doing the SR normal brakevan, (another reskin)
I have only a couple of BIG problems to overcome then Kevin's OK and uploading here I COME!


Kevin, it looks WONDERFUL!
And w/o the buffer's it'll be easy to make a Stuart.....(dibs on it )(I called it!)
I will definatley download it! Are you going to make an activity involving it for Talyllyn Route v1.a later?

sillyevan27 wrote:...Haven't you seen the Thomas threads on this site?!?!
Search "sillyevan27" and you'll see I'm a genius at Thomas and Sodor facts...

Courtesy of ThomasTheTank, MikeM7044T, mstnoodle, rwaceyw, and yours truly.

(Excuse my intrusion, folks!)

sillyevan27:

I work on the Talyllyn Railway as a volunteer cleaner, using the real life versions of the engines mentioned ((Have fired on Dolgoch, Sir Haydn, Douglas, and Tom Rolt) 2,3,6 and 7) I also have all of the Thomas Books. As u may well know No.6 is currently running as Duncan, as written by Rev.Awdry all the Thomas engines were red on the Skarloey Railway including No.4. Hence the red guise as Peter Sam.

When Britt Allcroft took over The Thomas franchise she modelled the little engines in all manner of colours to make them more appealing..., little kids dont want to see 6 identical engines. In fact in real life like when the locos arrived in Tywyn from the Corris and then (with 6 from Industry) they were all Talyllyn Green, as a result they were ALL Skarloey Red in the books.

Not only do i know most of the stories in the books, I have heard first hand what they were based on. No.2 Failing for instance in one of the books was when 2 split her eccentric near Brynglas. No.6 getting stuck in the tunnel was based upon the fact that 6 wouldnt go under Hendy Bridge without digging the track work out and No.3 derailing the points and traditionally being the bad engine, is due to 3 being a b*tch to fire, and that she didnt fit the somewhat errant gauge of between 2'3'' and 2'4'' back in 1951 and would fall between the rails.

The Skarloey engines were in fact all RED and not the variety of colours you have picked out.

As for reskinning, somewhere I have done a red No.3 as in the original books, & also No.2 as Pretoria (which she carried between 1902 and 1913)

Pitley Falley

Sorry!
I just like being naive

Ok just one more question...does the Talyllyn Rly. have an "incline" as mentioned in the books? Or did Edward Thomas get the Geisl just as an upgrade

Ok just one more
Did Talyllyn really have a spring break and then finish the trip like in "Old Faithful"??

I can't resist

Right, The Talyllyn did have an incline above Nant Gwernol (the end of loco working) it is called Altywyllt and from the top of it was a horse drawn tramway leading into the Quarries....

Ive never heard of locos being damaged as a result of runaways... However runaways did occur from time to time, the train ending up in the bottom of the Nant Gwernol. On the Talyllyn route if you go upto Nant you see the platform etc etc, this used to be a fan of sidings which acted as a sorting yard.

In real life it was No.2 who broke the front spring. The spring shattered at about Brynglas and they got back to Wharf with the frame rubbing on the motion. I believe a wooden block was jammed into the gap as a temporay mesure. Last time i was down 6 broke the back spring at Dolgoch on the down journey, when she arrived at Wharf, she was dispatched to Pendre. No2 was lit up in a rush, and No.9 Alf came down to wharf, hauled the train right time out of Wharf to Pendre, where 2 was being lit up still. 2 then ran upto Nant and back leaving 2 mins late, having taken over the train at Pendre.

One of trhe drivers and I then had to get 6 back on shed with little water and 40 p.s.i on it.... opened the regulator fully and she crawled up the yard. It took 3 days to fix the spring, we had to let the loco cool down, drop the fire, drop the ashpan, firebars etc etc then jack and pack the back end of the loco up. Drop the old spring out with a centre punch and hammer, insert the new one and reassemble the engine!!!

Any other tales dont hesitate to ask for the real versions!!!

Christian

Who are the Little Railway engineers Based on?
I know Ivo Hugh is Thomas Rolt ( No.7 has the name of the 1st manager and so does the litle railways No.7.) but who are the others based on?