365 Physics

ntanswell · Post by **ntanswell** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:19 pm

Calling all physics gurus:

In the process of creating some East Coast Express activities, I have come across the apparent physics problem on the "365s". From 0-40mph they go like a rocket, so much so it would throw passengers out of their seats! 40-60mph is what I would class as a reasonable amount of acceleration, but from 70-100 the acceleration is slower than a HST running on one engine, I have never got it to 100mph,highest I have managed is 88, as soon as it hits a gradient, it slows right down. I f I am going to do my 365 activities for the route, I need good 100mph coasting to be possible or it will not keep to the timetable and mess up all the paths. It may be that the acceleration on the model is realistic, as I have only ever ridden on one once, the acceleration seemed fantastic and was doing around 100 all the way to Stevenage (my judgement may be poor!)

Help very much appreciated

Nathan

P.S is there a 365 cab around as the needle on the 465 one only goes up to 90?

JCogman · Post by **JCogman** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:56 pm

I've noticed this too. Been trying to get a 12 car 365 to do Kings X - St Neots in 35 minutes but I can only ever get to around 80 mph.

portbury · Post by **portbury** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:54 pm

Hi folks,

I suspect you need to increase the MaxPower parameter in the eng file. This website:

http://www.therailwaycentre.com/index.html

is a useful mine of information about modern DMU, EMU, locos, etc.

The 365 shoud have 1256 kW for the 4 car set. I'm not sure if the eng files for the MSTS version have all the power concentrated in 1 loco, or whether its split between the 2 end cars.

Cheers

Rich

Anonymizeruk · Post by **Anonymizeruk** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:23 pm

I've had quite a bit of experience with MSTS physics, so I'll look into it. If I can get the unit to perform as it should, I'll post the details on here

Cheers

Gary

jennings · Post by **jennings** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:54 pm

For the 365 i use in Train Sim i use these values ...

MaxPower ( 628kW )
MaxForce ( 30kN )
MaxContinuousForce ( 20kN )

Accertion is fairly less balanced and overall the unit reaches a top speed of around 106 - 110mph. (That is per .eng file as there should be 2 for the unit - If not just double those values)

Hope that helps.

Backfoot2002 · Post by **Backfoot2002** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:33 am

http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic.php?t=51888