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Yorkshire Coast LNER
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 2:52 pm
by Beetlejuice
HI guys,
Anyone know of the best locos to use for this route, LNER wise? Am trying to make a new act for it in Lner times so would be useful. Will also be in BR times as well but thats easier.
cheers,
ross
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:36 pm
by dforrest
Have a look at this.
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic.php?t=39705
It is good to see more Yorkshire Coast activities being written.
David
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:02 pm
by Beetlejuice
Thanks David thats really useful.
Do you think it would be better then to model the act in the early BR era still with all the old NER types and some of the more standard locos? I had downloaded stock from here but it's probably best if i do base it around early 1950's as there is more stock.
Would it be prototypical to have some old LNER stock in it as well? This may be my first upload to the website but i feel an activity pack coming on!
Cheers,
Ross
Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 1:00 am
by JohnKendrick
Thanks for looking at the YCR.
Beetlejuice wrote:Would it be prototypical to have some old LNER stock in it as well? This may be my first upload to the website but i feel an activity pack coming on!
Indeed yes, there wasn't the concern about branding back then so much as there is nowadays. Often locos / stock would only get updated when scheduled refits were due. High profile main line services would have had priority for 'rebranding' while local branches sometimes remained in original livery (if you could see it beneath the grime!) There wasn't the funds for unnecesary work, goodness knows why so much gets wasted on branding these days when the money could be better spent elsewhere.
The YCR has a good range of route types and it would be great to see more activities created for it devised around the era the route represents (1900-1950ish.)
David's your man for testing any activities should you consider releasing that pack.
John
Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 7:21 am
by Beetlejuice
I think I will If i can keep rembering to save! Thanks for the advice John, my first act looks set to be a stopping service from Pickering to Scarbourgh, with a G5 and LNER coaches. The other trains on the route will all be in BR livery with a few exceptions. Lots of loose stock and AI traffic, should be very liverly aroung Seamer and scarbourgh, should be some reds around there!! I'm not going to be online for a few days but i should have plenty of progress to show you guys when I get back.
I do love this route! John have you expanded it or anything recently or is there any plans to?
Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:40 am
by JohnKendrick
Beetlejuice wrote:I do love this route! John have you expanded it or anything recently or is there any plans to?
Pleased you like the route. Nothing more has been added since the CD was released though the intention was there in that I created a YCR2 folder for that purpose but other things took priority, having abandoned those to construct what we have. Route building can be a very time consuming activity.
There's still a chance I may expand it sometime, or redo it with one of the new sims should it prove better making route building less time consuming and more reliable. Route building with MSTS is a bit of a lottery in that one never knows when hours of work will be dumped by the program with some unrecoverable error (and this may not be immediately noticed until one goes back to a location only to find everything missing.) The more time that has been spent on a tile the greater the likely of it getting corrupted. Days of work can be lost at a stroke when it is necessary to revert to a version saved days earlier before the corruption occured.
John
Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:05 am
by douglee
Hi Ross,
More power to your activity writing elbow. YCR is one of the routes I keep returning to.
Any era will do, but please include some decent local freight acts. Poodleing along picking up and droping off is so satisfing.
As I have said elsewhere my attempts at act writing are !!!! nuff said. I usually make a consist, use explore route and make it up as I go along.
GOOD LUCK
Doug
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 7:51 pm
by Beetlejuice
Sorry doug the first one is currently a local passenger!! May think about the goods soon though. Might try and do it so you start off with just a brakevan in the yard a chose your own trucks etc!
However even though activity editor is the most annoying program ever(at one point it crashed before I even got into it and it takes ages to close), I think i have made significant progress with this act after a few hours. It currently has a g5 with3 coaches going to scarbough with lots of ai traffic around pickering and seamer so far, i think there is about 10 trains as well as the players service. this also means that you need to watch the signals very closely in these areas, until you get a clear run through the forge valley until seamer when it becomes busy again. There is also loose traffic until about half way. It's running fine to seamer so far, though atm it stops there so I may need to sort that out. Shouldn't take long though. There are a few downloads I'm afraid but the vast majority is cd stock.
Current downloads include d49 derbyshire, the LNER senteniel Railcar, pullmans both the brakes and parlours. There may be some more though this hasn't yet be finished. I'm trying to keep the download count low though so the majority is from the CD.
I have one small problem with the G5 though. It doesn't realy stop unless you apply most of the carriges handbrakes. Is there an unpdate or should i just include a warning for users?
Anyway here are some screenshots:
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The black C4 with a goods just outside pickering station. Literally starts coming in as soon as you start the game.
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the sentenial shunt. At the begining of the act you follow this a short way out of pickering, before it reverses behind the C4. I have removed the brakevan from the location and replaced it with 2 coal trucks! Also in this area are a pair of camping coaches and some more trucks.
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A picture of the G5 waiting for the setenial railcar to pass. You wait for this before getting a clear run towards seamer.
Thanks for the intresset by the way. If i finish this act then I will defiently post it to the website. It is fictional of course, so you may doubt some of the accuracy. The reason I also chose the LNER was because the vast majority if not all acts are for the time period after the LNER and I would presonnelly prefer a bit of vareity. Time permitting i may duplicate this act for the early 1950's, although the line closed in 1950.
cheers,
Ross
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:52 pm
by douglee
Hi Ross,
The act sounds great so far. Beware putting too much AI traffic in,as those without the MSTSbin patch or slower spec PCs, will suffer low frame rates. Your screen shots, very good by the way, indicate a high end machine. I don't mean to discourage you in anyway.
As to the G5 braking, I don't know of an update. Ask on the general forum or loco creation. You could then include a word doc in the download, with the changes in it.
I think the freight act idea would make it impossible to define a work order.
At least the way I understand it but, as I say my act writing skills are !!!!.
GOOD LUCK anyway
Doug
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:30 pm
by Beetlejuice
Cheers doug,
Currently I have bin installed but i wouldn't say my laptop is top end compared to others- 1.83 gigahz processor and 2*1024 memorary. Though yes this is better than others that run MS, such as my old comp, much slower and less memoaray etc.
G5 is a bit odd never noticed anything quite like it to be honest. I'll think I'll drop the creator a pm, or try and adjust it myself.
I've seen other frieght atcs that do what I've said, where you basically can play in the sidings whilst stuff goes past you. can't find it though, it came up in the forums not too long ago.
I may do some more work on it in a mo.
Cheers,
Ross
EDIT: you might be right here's a link to what I'm on about doing something simiallar with
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... t+activity
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:19 pm
by douglee
Hi Ross,
Thanks for the link. I somehow missed the Y1 shift act, I've got it now! I can change the loco for the latest Y3.
A free act just in a yard is, I think, possible.
The start and finish points go either side of the yard entrance.
A selecton of wagons are placed in the yard.
It can then be shunted with a dice system, i.e. one throw tells you the wagon, the next tells you where to put it, if you'll pardon me, obviously dice numbers have to be set to specific wagons and sidings. This can be as simple or as complicated as you like.
When you're fed go to the finish point.
I have the fire extinguisher ready, for when someone shoots me down in flames.
GOOD LUCK
Doug
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:52 pm
by Beetlejuice
Intressting idea, may try it tonight, if i've finished the act. shouldn't take long mind.
I haven't tried the y1 act, please tell me what it's like when you're tried it.
Also I might need a beta tester asap, cos i may have the act finished by tonight. I may also unistall bin soon as i wish to upgrade to the new one! I'll test it without bin first though. It would be best if someone with a lower end machine tries it just to see how it copes with frame rates.
Many thanks,
Ross
PS more pictures tonight esp seamer-scarbourgh.
Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 6:49 pm
by douglee
Hi Ross,
Concerning the braking problem on the G5.
Is it the coaches?
I made two 3 coach consistis using the ExGE_LNER_Coaches, I take it these are the ones you are using, 1 using the YCR G5 and 1 using a BR G5 from Burton Derby. The YCR G5 wouldn't stop. The BD G5 wouldn't move! I changed the coaches for standard Mk1s and every thing seemed fine.
Just something to look at.
I tried the Y3 act. It's a very cleaver piece of act writing, with over laping messages. It worked alot better with RailDriver for changing the points quick.
GOOD LUCK
Doug
Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:51 pm
by Beetlejuice
not sure which set of coaches i'm using. They are from the CD though. i shall have a play at some point.
So what happens in the y3 act then? I may try and do something simillar in scarbourgh.
I do apoligise for the lack of updates, i have my first set of gcse's in a week. Think i'm gonna do so this weekend, esp if it rains.
Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:48 pm
by douglee
Hi Ross,
You do not have 'Skipton 1920' then?
Get it's a great period route.
In the Y3 act you are given a start, you then come to another instruction. Ok you begin that, oops, you then get another one to fit in with the last one. All of which has to be completed in the right order. All good fun.
GCSEs? I was driving for the COOP when my mates were still swatting. Been a cog shifter ever since.
GOOD LUCK
Doug