Coupling/brake issues

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Szlumper2
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Coupling/brake issues

Post by Szlumper2 »

I'm trying to create an activity for Cambrian 2 - doing pilot work at Aberystwyth.

The first thing to happen is to couple up to a brake van. I've had some diffciulty finding a pannier tank and a brake van that would couple, but I eventually solved the problem by converting Reg Furniss's GWR Toad Brake Van to vacuum brakes and coupling to pannier 4612 from the Bala Hub.

Now I can couple up, but when I put the loco in reaverse, it won't move (OK, it moves *very* slowly as the fence posts can be seen moving slightly, but not enough to register a speed on F5). It's almost as if the handbrake is on in the brake van but F9 tells me it isn't.

Any help would be appreciated. Copies of the wag and eng files are below.

Many thanks!

Richard

TOAD:

SIMISA@@@@@@@@@@JINX0D0t______

Wagon ( GWR_Toad_brakevan_vac
Type ( Freight )
WagonShape ( toad1.s )

Size ( 2.45692m 3.65496m 7.8738m )
Mass ( "27.396t" )
WheelRadius ( 33in/2 )
InertiaTensor ( Box (2.45692m 3.6549m 7.8738m) )
Coupling (
Type ( Chain )
Spring (
Stiffness ( 1e6N/m 5e6N/m )
Damping ( 1e6N/m/s 1e6N/m/s )
Break ( 1.1e7N 1.1e7N )
r0 ( 20cm 30cm )
)
Velocity ( 0.1m/s )
)
Buffers (
Spring (
Stiffness ( 1e6N/m 5e6N/m )
Damping ( 1e6N/m/s 1e6N/m/s )
r0 ( 0m 1e9 )
)
Centre ( 0.5 )
Radius ( 1 )
Angle ( 0.5deg )
)
Adheasion ( 0.2 0.4 2 0 )
DerailRailHeight ( 4cm )
DerailRailForce ( 2.5*27t )
DerailBufferForce ( 400kN )
NumWheels ( 8 )
Friction (
100N/m/s 1 -1mph 0 1
5.1N/rad/s 1 -1rad/s 0 1
)

BrakeEquipmentType ( "Vacuum_brake, Handbrake, Auxilary_reservoir" )
BrakeSystemType ( "Vacuum_single_pipe" )
MaxBrakeForce( 50kN )

MaxHandbrakeForce( 35kN )
NumberOfHandbrakeLeverSteps( 100 )


MaxReleaseRate( 5 )
MaxApplicationRate( 5 )
MaxAuxilaryChargingRate( 25 )
BrakeCylinderPressureForMaxBrakeBrakeForce( 25 )

Inside (
PassengerCabinFile ( toad1.s )
PassengerCabinHeadPos ( 0.0 2.71 -2.51 )
RotationLimit ( 45 120 0 )
StartDirection ( 0 180 0 )
Sound ("genfreightwag1.sms")
)


Sound ( "genfreightwag1.sms" )


)

PANNIER

SIMISA@@@@@@@@@@JINX0D0t______

Wagon ( 4612
Type ( Engine )
WagonShape ( 4612.s )

Size ( 2.67m 3.74m 9.01m )
CentreOfGravity ( 0.0m 0.0m 0.0m )
Centre ( 0m 1.89952m 0m )
Mass ( 50.0t )


InertiaTensor ( Box ( 2.67m 3.74m 8.41m ) )
Coupling (
Type ( Chain )
Spring (
Stiffness ( 9e6N/m 5e6N/m )
Damping ( 1.77e6N/m/s 1.77e6N/m/s )
Break ( 2.1e7N 2.1e7N )
r0 ( 0m 0m )
)
CouplingHasRigidConnection ( 1 )
Velocity ( 0.1m/s )
)
Coupling (
Type ( Chain )
Spring (
Stiffness ( 9e6N/m 5e6N/m )
Damping ( 1.77e6N/m/s 1.77e6N/m/s )
Break ( 2.1e7N 2.1e7N )
r0 ( 0m 0m )

)
CouplingHasRigidConnection ( 1 )
Velocity ( -0.1m/s )
)
Buffers (
Spring (
Stiffness ( 9e6N/m 5e6N/m )
Damping ( 1e6N/m/s 1e6N/m/s )
r0 ( 0m 10cm )
)
Centre ( 0.5 )
Radius ( 1 )
Angle ( 0.5deg )
)
Adheasion ( 0.15 0.3 2 0.5 )
DerailRailHeight ( 4cm )
DerailRailForce ( 135t )
DerailBufferForce ( 1000kN )
WheelRadius ( 0.4825m )
NumWheels ( 3 )
Friction (
707/m/s 0 1mph 12.95N/m/s 1.8
5.1N/rad/s 1 -1rad/s 0 1
)
BrakeEquipmentType ( "Vacuum_brake, Handbrake, Auxilary_reservoir" )
BrakeSystemType ( "Vacuum_single_pipe" )
MaxBrakeForce( 36.56kN )
MaxHandbrakeForce( 80kN )
NumberOfHandbrakeLeverSteps( 100 )
MaxReleaseRate( 10 )
MaxApplicationRate( 10 )
MaxAuxilaryChargingRate( 10 )
BrakeCylinderPressureForMaxBrakeBrakeForce( 25 )
Sound ( "..\\..\\common.sound\\SteamSoundsOrgUk\\GWR-Manor-Int-120a-01.sms" )
Lights ( 2
Light (
Comment( rear light red )
Type ( 0 )
Conditions (
Headlight ( 3 )
Unit ( 2 )
)
Cycle ( 0 )
FadeIn ( 0.5 )
FadeOut ( 0.5 )
States ( 1
State (
Duration ( 0.0 )
LightColour ( 80ff0000 )
Position ( -0.964337 1.54137 -4.30736 )
Azimuth ( -180 -180 -180 )
Transition ( 0 )
Radius ( 0.5 )
)
)
)
Light (
Comment( front light bright )
Type ( 0 )
Conditions (
Headlight ( 3 )
Unit ( 2 )
)
Cycle ( 0 )
FadeIn ( 0.5 )
FadeOut ( 0.5 )
States ( 1
State (
Duration ( 0.0 )
LightColour ( FFE3E3E3 )
Position ( 1.00523 1.36154 4.10657 )
Azimuth ( 0 0 0 )
Transition ( 0 )
Radius ( 0.5 )
)
)
)
)

)

Engine ( 4612
Effects (
SteamSpecialEffects
(
StackFX
(
0 3.76977 3.40614
0 1 0
.1
)
SafetyValvesFX
(
0 3.46588 -1.16708
0 1 0
.1
)
WhistleFX
(
0 3.37901 -1.55021
0 1 0
.1
)
CylindersFX
(
0.435559 0.818693 2.90871
0 0 1
.1
)
CylindersFX
(
-0.522427 0.818693 2.87396
0 0 1
.1
)
)
)

Wagon ( 4612 )
IsTenderRequired( -1 )
Type ( Steam )
MaxPower ( 1675hp )
MaxForce ( 22515lbf )
MaxVelocity ( 52mph )
WheelRadius ( 0.975m )
Sanding ( 1e9mph )
NumWheels ( 6 )
BoilerLength ( 3.12m )
BoilerVolume ( "112.90*(ft^3)" )
BoilerEffectivity ( 1 )
DraftingEffect ( 0.77 )
BoilerResponsiveness ( 1.2 )
CoalBurnage ( 3.4lb/hp/h )
MaxBoilerOutput ( 22000lb/h )
NumCylinders ( 2 )
CylinderStroke ( 24in )
CylinderDiameter ( 17.5in )
CylinderVolume ( "26.73*(ft^3)" )
CylinderEffectivity ( 1.2 )
InjectorSizes ( 9mm 10mm )
ExhaustLimit ( 22000lb/h )
PrimingFactor ( 1 )
BlastExponent ( 0.85 )
MaxBoilerPressure ( 200psi )
MaxFireMass ( 780lb )
IdealFireMass ( 780lb )
MaxWaterMass ( 1570lb )
SafetyValvesSteamUsage ( 8000lb/h )
ShovelCoalMass ( 14lb )
SmokeCombustion ( 12.8 )
MaxTenderCoalMass ( 6500lb )
MaxTenderWaterMass ( 11989lb )

comment(0 for live steam, 1 for exhaust steam)
InjectorTypes( 0 0 )
SuperHeater ( 1.23 )
SteamSmokeUnitsPerPoundOfFuel( 2 )
SteamMaxSmokeUnitsReleaseRate( 3 )
MaxSteamHeatingPressure( 50 )
SafetyValvePressureDifference( 4 )
SteamGaugeGlassHeight( 10 )
BasicSteamUsage ( 15lb/h )
BasicCoalUsage ( 100lb/h )

comment( min steam pressure, min water proportion, max water proportion )
InjectorLimits1 ( 50psi 0.125 1 )
InjectorLimits2 ( 60psi 0.125 1 )
CylinderCocksPowerEfficiency ( 0.9 )
SteamCylinderCocksOperation( Manual )

VacuumBrakesSmallEjectorPowerRating( 3.0 )
VacuumBrakesMinBoilerPressureMaxVacuum( 110 )
VacuumBrakesSmallEjectorUsageRate( 320 )
VacuumBrakesLargeEjectorUsageRate( 1200 )
VacuumBrakesHasVacuumPump( 0 )

TrainBrakesControllerMaxReleaseRate( 1.5 )
TrainBrakesControllerMinSystemPressure( 0 )
TrainBrakesControllerMaxSystemPressure( 25 )

EngineBrakesControllerHasProportionalBrake( 1 )
EngineBrakesProportionalBrakeLag( 0.9 )

BrakesEngineBrakeType ( "Vacuum_single_pipe" )
BrakesTrainBrakeType ( "Vacuum_single_pipe" )
BrakesEngineControllers( "Hand, Train" )

SteamSmallestCutoff( -0.175 )
NumberOfDamperSteps( 6 )

RegulatorValveType ( Twin_port )
RegulatorSecondValveStartPosition( 0.55 )
RegulatorPilotValveExponent( 1 )
RegulatorSecondValveExponent( 2 )
RegulatorPilotValveFullOpenning( 0.5 )
RegulatorMainValveInitialOpenning( 0.55 )
RegulatorPilotValveInitialOpening ( 0.01 )

SteamBlowerEffectExponent( 0.9 )
SteamBlowerEfficiencyExponent( 1.1 )
SteamBlowerMaxSteamUsageRate( 500 ) comment( lbs/h )
SteamBlowerMaxProportionOfBlastEffect( 0.13 )



SteamSmokeUnitsPerPoundOfFuel( 2 )

CabView ( "..\\..\\common.cab\\tanker\\tanker.cvf" )
HeadOut ( 1.35 3.0 -3.15 )

EngineControllers (
comment( Engine controls )

Regulator ( 0 1 0.025 0
NumNotches( 0 )
)
Cutoff ( -0.55 0.75 0.01 0
NumNotches( 0 )
)
Brake_Train ( 0 1 0.01 0.65
NumNotches( 3
Notch(0 1 TrainBrakesControllerReleaseStart )
Notch(0.4 1 TrainBrakesControllerRunningStart )
Notch(0.5 1 TrainBrakesControllerApplyStart )
)
)
Brake_Hand ( 0 1 0.0125 0
NumNotches( 0 )
)
FireDoor ( 0 1 0.1 0
NumNotches( 0 )
)
Sanding( 0 1 0 )
Blower ( 0 1 0.025 0.2
NumNotches( 0 )
)
HeatingTap ( 0 1 0.025 0
NumNotches( 0 )
)
Shovel ( 0 1 0.1 0
NumNotches( 0 )
)
DampersFront ( 0 1 0.1 1
NumNotches( 0 )
)
DampersBack ( 0 1 0.1 0
NumNotches( 0 )
)
Injector1Steam ( 0 1 0 )
Injector2Steam ( 0 1 0 )
Injector1Water ( 0 1 0.1 0
NumNotches( 0 )
)
Injector2Water ( 0 1 0.1 0
NumNotches( 0 )
)
CylinderCocks ( 0 1 1 )
Whistle ( 0 1 0 )
WaterScoop ( 0 1 0 )
SmallEjectorOrCompressor( 0 1 1 )
Headlights( 0 1 0 )
)

comment(fire temp, fire mass, water mass, boiler pressure,
water level, tender_water_mass, tender_coal_mass,
smoke_quantity, fire_condition, coal quality )

EngineVariables( 950 800 1210 195 0.9 1200 0.95 0.9 1 0.9 )
Sound ( "..\\..\\common.sound\\SteamSoundsOrgUk\\GWR-Manor-Int-120a-01.sms" )
Name ( "57xxNo4612" )
Description (
""

)
EngineOperatingProcedures (
"To move forward\n"+
"1. Press the W key several times to move the Reverser to full Forward.\n"+
"2. Press the ; (SEMICOLON) key to release the train brakes.\n"+
"3. Press the D key to increase the Regulator setting.\n"+
"4. As you accelerate, press the S key to slowly reduce the Reverser setting, then adjust the Regulator to maintain the desired speed.\n\n"+
"To slow the train\n"+
"1. Press the A key to move the Regulator to a lower setting.\n"+
"2. Use the brakes to further reduce speed if desired.\n\n"+
"To apply the train brakes\n"+
"1. Press the ' (APOSTROPHE) key to apply the train brakes.\n"+
"2. To hold the brakes at their current setting, lower the brake lever until it's in its middle (Neutral) position, by pressing the ; (SEMICOLON) key.\n\n"+
"To release the train brakes\n"+
"1. Press the ; (SEMICOLON) key to release the train brakes.\n"+
"2. When the brakes are released, raise the brake lever until it's in its middle (Neutral) position, by pressing the ' (APOSTROPHE) key.\n\n"+
"To back up\n"+
"1. Bring your train to a full stop.\n"+
"2. Press the S key several times to move the Reverser to the full Reverse position.\n"+
"4. Press the ; (SEMICOLON) key to release the brakes.\n"+
"5. Slowly advance the regulator (D key).\n\n"+
"To load and unload passengers\n"+
"1. Stop at a station.\n"+
"2. Press the ENTER key.\n"+
"3. Wait for the \"permission to depart\" whistle.\n"+
"TIP: Use the Next Station driving aid (F10) to monitor loading and unloading.\n\n"+
"To couple to a car or locomotive\n"+
"1. Coast into the unit at a very slow speed, about 2 mph.\n"+
"TIP: To use the Coupling view, press the 6 key.\n"+
"2. Press F9 to open the Train Operations window.\n"+
"3. If the icon for the unit you coupled to is red, the handbrake is on. Double-click the car to release the handbrake.\n"+
"4. Close the Train Operations window.\n\n"+
"To uncouple from a car or locomotive\n"+
"1. Press F9 to open the Train Operations window.\n"+
"2. Double-click a unit in the part of the train you want to uncouple from the locomotive, to set the handbrake.\n"+
"3. Double-click the coupler between the units you want to uncouple and the rest of the train.\n"+
"4. Close the Train Operations window.\n\n"+
"Firing commands (Automatic Fireman OFF in Options screen)\n"+
"To add coal to the firebox\n"+
"1. Press the F key to open the Firebox door.\n"+
"2. Press the R key to increase the shoveling rate.\n\n"+
"To stop adding coal to the fire\n"+
"1. Press SHIFT+R to decrease the shoveling rate.\n"+
"2. Press SHIFT+F to close the firebox door.\n\n"+
"To operate the blower\n"+
"1. Press the N key to increase the blower.\n"+
"2. Press SHIFT+N to decrease the blower.\n\n"+
"To operate the dampers\n"+
"1. Press the M key to open the dampers.\n"+
"2. Press SHIFT+M to close the dampers.\n\n"+
"To inject water into the boiler\n"+
"1. Press the I key to turn on the steam to Injector 1.\n"+
"(You can also press the O key to turn on the steam to Injector 2.)\n"+
"2. Press the K key to increase the water flow to Injector 1.\n"+
"(To increase the water flow to Injector 2, press the L key.)\n\n"+
"To stop boiler water injection\n"+
"1. Press the I key to turn off the steam to Injector 1.\n"+
"2. Press the O key to turn off the steam to Injector 2."
)
)
slipperman12
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Location: North Nottinghamshire, UK

Re: Coupling/brake issues

Post by slipperman12 »

Hi Richard,
Are you using MSTS or Open Rails?
If it's MSTS, many GWR locos are setup to require the small injector to be opened to release the brakes - press J

If you're using ORTS, I'm not sure if the above has been implemented, so, if not, try pressing <SHIFT+/> to initialise the brakes.

Cheers,
Ged
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Szlumper2
Getting the hang of things now
Posts: 86
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:02 pm

Re: Coupling/brake issues

Post by Szlumper2 »

Thanks - use of the ejector has sorted it!
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