[KRS] GWR Pannier Tank

[sjl1993]

With my Class 66 done (bar texturing) I decided to start a new project.



Still WIP & still have a lot to do. But I have the basic outline done & now all i need to do is small things

[LocoLes]

Could you possibly make a 54xx class? (5412 would be my choice) No one has done any of these big wheel (5ft 2") smaller tank variety. (The tanks were smaller to give room for the big wheel splashes.) These were Auto-Fitted so were found on Branch lines usually where more than one autocoach was needed or where it also had siphons or horseboxes attached. The same design carried out right up to BR WR. (Different wheel sizes 64xx and 74xx 4ft 7.5inches)

LocoLes

[mpeffers]

Something struck me as I looked at it so i dug some pictures out and came to the conclusion that I think the boilers a bit too high above the running board. The proportions of the tanks themselves seem to fit those of the boiler but, in reality theres much less space under the boiler (http://iancwhite.fotopic.net/c811404.html). Might also be worthing giving it a few more polys in spaces seeing as we can with the new simulator to really catch the feeling of one of my personal favourite engines, but it's looking good so far.

[davidaward]

Yep the gap between the boiler and running plate is far too wide, although if it was like that in reality my job of oiling up would be much easier- only the slimmest of engineman find it easy to crawl in between.......

Be careful when doing a pannier though there are many different series and can be a minefield of minor but distinctive differences, here are the main ones;

57XX series- smaller cab, welded tanks Swindon built.
77XX and 87XX series continuation of 57XX series- some built by private contractors with riveted tanks - eg 7714 and 7715 built at Kerr Stuart.

Numbers after 8750 have the newer larger more rounded cab, however mechanicallly the same as 57XX/77 series.
Others in this series are the 46XX, 36XX, 37XX and 96XX.

The 64XX series, like that in the fotopic link above are a different loco entirely.
Boiler/tanks at different height, flat top accross boiler top rather than a hump. No tool boxes on runnign plate. Rounded cab. Auto gear fitted. Lower boiler pressure than a 57XX (165lbs as opposed to 200lbs on a 57XX).

54XX series- non-auto fitted version of 64XX.

74XX series- Hawksworth modification of 54/64 series with a higher boiler pressure (200 lbs) non auto fitted.

16XX series- Hawksworth lightweight version- lower boiler pressure (165lbs), all round smaller loco for the light weight branches.

Good luck with the model- I'll look forward to seeing more progress.

[demonshadow]

perhaps i should point out that the boiler appears to be missing judging by the circle for the smokebox looking good so far though

[JonPotter]

Dave, I agree with the list but IIRC a 64xx is 165psi too - the one we had at Chinnor certainly was (6430)!

[davidaward]

Dave, I agree with the list but IIRC a 64xx is 165psi too - the one we had at Chinnor certainly was (6430)!

Cheers Jon- edited!

The 57Xxs are the best in my opinion- the very best shunting locos ever made and when given a train they can't half go well! Whatever the gradient/load a 57 will dig in and if fired correctly steam like a witch! And when you go over a drop joint and those coil springs start bouncing- well it surprises the unsuspecting footplate passengers!!!

[sjl1993]

not much of an update

[rwaceyw]

Still needs the boiler adding.



Note the boiler protrudes quite a lot under the bottom of the tanks....

Dave

[sjl1993]

Due to a lack of time to model now i've gone back to school/college this model will be put on hold I will slowly do some work on it but an update will be quite a while away

[refman]

These any good ?
A 64xx and a 74xx

[d1010]

Yes please Reg

[paullad1984]

Oooooooooooo 64xx sounds nice!