GWR streamlined traction

viperskil · Post by **viperskil** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:10 pm

Recently I have been seeing a lot of items about GWR streamlined steam locos has anybody created one for MSTS or is anybody considering creating one?

mpeffers · Post by **mpeffers** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:11 pm

I could have a try for you if you want, but I'd need drawings and to have a bash at animation for the first time in TSM.

viperskil · Post by **viperskil** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:21 pm

ill see what i can get for you

DarwinS · Post by **DarwinS** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:28 am

You should try to contact one of the people who already made a GWR loco.
They might be willing to modify a model rather than someone making a new one from scratch.
As far as I know there were very few examples and the didn't stay that way for very long. They were just regular engines (Kings or Castles) that had a dome shape added to the smoke box front and cowls behind the chimney and safety valve bonnets.

Of course the other streamlined things were the diesel railcars. We have a good model of one of the later single unit flying bananas - perhaps in time someone will make one of the original more curvey flying bananas without the regular buffers or one of the two car express units with Buffets.

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:06 am

Hi
Quick job for a freight animation possibly?
Cheers
Jon

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:31 am

IIRC bits of the cab were cut back (like Bullied pacific forward-looking windows) so you couldn't really do a proper job with a freightanim.

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:01 pm

I think a while ago someone asked Robin Howell if they could streamline one of his Kings and he refused saying the GW streamlining was the ugliest desecration of any GW engine known to man!

But if someone was to build the streamlining as a freight anim, that might be one solution. You'd probably need to incorporate footplate crew as these may be in use on a model and would not allow a second freight anim.

Martin

mccormackpj · Post by **mccormackpj** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:54 pm

I read somewhere (Nock? Holcroft?) that the streamlining was half-hearted, possibly to satisfy a board request in the light of certain developments at Kings X and Euston. Collet and his boys stuck some blobs of plasticine or similar on a model of a Castle just to show how much better GWR locos looked without the new-fangled gimmickry. The real thing looked pretty rubbish with the additions - gadzooks, a streamlined safety valve bonnet! After all, if there had been any foundation in the idea, Brunel would have thought of it first - and Churchward second.

I suspect there was a lot of grave-spinning down Devon-way in Stoke Gabriel ..

Patrick

mccormackpj · Post by **mccormackpj** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:25 pm

The highly nostalgic Pathe Newsreels are available at the ITN Archive: http://www.itnarchive.com. If you go to this clip reference 821_17 (http://www.itnarchive.com/cgi-bin/taweb ... l&v=tabbed), you will find a short film on GWR 6014, KHVII in its 'streamlined' state. The rather plummy narrator says that it was intended to capture the world speed record for steam .. watch out, Mr Gresley!

A little uncertainty: I'm not one of those who can recite names and numbers of entire loco classes, so I checked the number for KHVIII on http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/names_namesk.htm, where it says that the number was 6012, but 6014 is clearly visible in the clip. Over to the experts ..

There are plenty of other black & white railway wonders on Pathe: try the Giant's Causeway Tramway just after WW2.

Patrick