Class 89

Miren · Post by **Miren** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 1:57 pm

Does anyone have an intention of making the unique class 89. I think it would look great on MSTS especially in Intercity Swallow livery. If anyone does can you tell me.

Thank You

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 2:17 pm

Hi
Try the search function of the forums.

It was started....but never completed.

Cheers
Jon

jasonclarke · Post by **jasonclarke** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 3:04 pm

I do intend to finish my version but it wont be for sometime!.

Jason

johncard · Post by **johncard** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 3:50 pm

I only found out about this loco recently!!

How come there was only one of this class built, and why on earth has it been withdrawn twice? For GNER to have obtained it, it must have been a successful loco?

That's my curiousity for you!!

John

SCOTTLOWES · Post by **SCOTTLOWES** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:10 pm

The Class 89 GNER was in newcastle on saturday and so was a freightliner class 86

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:12 pm

johncard wrote:I only found out about this loco recently!!

How come there was only one of this class built, and why on earth has it been withdrawn twice? For GNER to have obtained it, it must have been a successful loco?

That's my curiousity for you!!

John

Hi
They built the Class91's instead.
Cheers
Jon

Miren · Post by **Miren** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:30 pm

If you want to make the class 89 and need detailed drawings and photographs you might want to have a look at http://www.traintesting.com/Class_89.htm

johncard · Post by **johncard** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:31 pm

jbilton wrote:Hi
They built the Class91's instead.
Cheers
Jon

I presume it moves, then!

In that case, why have they withdrawn it? Incompatibility or something??

John

EDIT: Question answered by above post.

Miren · Post by **Miren** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:47 pm

I think they withdrew it because it wasn't a very reliable train. It would have been a nice site seeing a class 89 in front of MK4 coaches. BR also found that class 91's were more reliable. Have a look at the link there is a brief description of the class 89's life.

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:56 pm

Miren wrote:I think they withdrew it because it wasn't a very reliable train. It would have been a nice site seeing a class 89 in front of MK4 coaches. BR also found that class 91's were more reliable. Have a look at the link there is a brief description of the class 89's life.

Hi
I think you're a bit wrong.....on all counts.
Withdrawn as none standard.
Re-instated because its an excellent loco.
Class91's initially a bit of a pig in a poke....but I believe they've settled down now.
Mostly political decisions ,or so I was told, by one of the main designers I had the pleasure to meet (in the cab) a few years ago.
Unfortunately I'm not very up on "modern" stuff.
Cheers
Jon

rufiky4 · Post by **rufiky4** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:36 pm

Yes, GNER did have a go at running it for a while, as far as I knew they were all for keeping it but a unique and unfortunately very expensive part broke on it - a traction motor I think - so it's been stored for a few years since, and is now at Barrow Hill.

spartacus · Post by **spartacus** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 11:13 am

While GNER had it, it was a regular on the Leeds - King's Cross route; not sure if BR used it in the same way or not. It was a good performer, having being brought out of preservation by GNER! As has been said before, as with any single loco class, any parts which fail are almost always non-standard and have to be made from new. When GNER considered repairing the 89, hiring Eurostar sets obviously made more sense to them.

http://www.therailwaycentre.com/Pages%2 ... us_89.html

petermakosch · Post by **petermakosch** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:06 pm

Does anyone know what the cab looked like on these trains?

spartacus · Post by **spartacus** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:15 pm

There are some useful diagrams here: http://www.traintesting.com/class_89.htm

Miren · Post by **Miren** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:17 pm

If you want to know a rough idea of what the cab looked like go to http://www.traintesting.com/images/class89_cab.jpg. It is only a rough idea