J36 Maude

ca55ie · Post by **ca55ie** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:07 pm

Well, you have done that superb scotsman!

Sam

JonathonAG · Post by **JonathonAG** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:19 am

ca55ie wrote:Well, you have done that superb scotsman!

Sam

Thanks Ca55ie

harveype · Post by **harveype** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:57 am

Hi

Just a small side note, and not trying to rain on Jonathons Parade,

but I created the scotsman and its Skins

, Jonathon basically moved the skins from My USA version to My BR Version.

Thanks

Peter

JonathonAG · Post by **JonathonAG** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:04 am

Peter is right, but instead I used the A3 replacement instead of the USA, took a lot to discover how to though
So about the J36, is anyone else going to attempt it?

JonathonAG · Post by **JonathonAG** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:15 am

This is a question to all that read.

If Chris manages to upload the J36 ( we are currently trying to convince decapod yo give us permission ), would you download it?

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:29 am

JonathonAG wrote:This is a question to all that read.

If Chris manages to upload the J36 ( we are currently trying to convince decapod yo give us permission ), would you download it?

No I wouldn't personally..... as it wouldn't be very good.

PS I have tried to warn you earlier, in another post, about giving the original model authors the correct and full credit. I realise you are new to train simming but you must be made aware that a model ,from scratch, takes the model maker often 300hrs to complete.
I hope you will listen this time....as you are heading towards alienating the model makers towards yourself.....something I'm sure you donot wish.
Certainly pestering Decapod over his O1 is not,I feel,a particular good move at all.
Of course you may see it differently.

ianmacmillan · Post by **ianmacmillan** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:46 pm

Think of this from Decapod's point of view.

Someone downloads the J36 and thinks, "This is nothing like a J36. Who made it?"

He looks at the readme and sees Decapods name so he fires off an email telling Decapod where he has gone wrong.

Then he posts in here telling everybody how bad Decapod's models are.

People begin to doubt all his other models and someone posts that the rivets on the GW tank are 8 inches apart when they should be 6 inches.

Please stop pestering about the J36.
I'd like one too but until someone wants to make one, we will have to do without.

There is a lack of Scottish locos for MSTS but the only way to change that is to learn how to use a modeling program and do a lot of research.

Download the free GMax program or buy TSM and get started.

JonathonAG · Post by **JonathonAG** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:52 pm

ianmacmillan wrote:Think of this from Decapod's point of view.

Someone downloads the J36 and thinks, "This is nothing like a J36. Who made it?"

He looks at the readme and sees Decapods name so he fires off an email telling Decapod where he has gone wrong.

Then he posts in here telling everybody how bad Decapod's models are.

People begin to doubt all his other models and someone posts that the rivets on the GW tank are 8 inches apart when they should be 6 inches.

Please stop pestering about the J36.
I'd like one too but until someone wants to make one, we will have to do without.

There is a lack of Scottish locos for MSTS but the only way to change that is to learn how to use a modeling program and do a lot of research.

Download the free GMax program or buy TSM and get started.

eddief · Post by **eddief** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:49 pm

Uploaded on behalf of ChirsJ94

<IMG width="593" height="260" SRC="http://www.atomic-album.com/showPic.php/22622/01.JPG">

<IMG width="683" height="308" SRC="http://www.atomic-album.com/showPic.php/22622/01-3.JPG">

JonathonAG · Post by **JonathonAG** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:54 pm

eddief wrote:Uploaded on behalf of ChirsJ94

<IMG width="593" height="260" SRC="http://www.atomic-album.com/showPic.php/22622/01.JPG">

It loooooooooks soooooooooo nice, pity I won't be able to have it as I think Chris won't be able to get permission.

Nice loco though

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:15 pm

JonathonAG wrote: pity I won't be able to have it as I think Chris won't be able to get permission.

Why doesn't he just email the blooming thing to you.....and then the matter can be dropped.

JonathonAG · Post by **JonathonAG** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:18 pm

jbilton wrote:
JonathonAG wrote: pity I won't be able to have it as I think Chris won't be able to get permission.

Why doesn't he just email the blooming thing to you.....and then the matter can be dropped.

I have already asked him to do that and no reply, and you make me sound as if I am like a parasite, so I bid thy farewell
And I don't see you trying, at least Chris is giving it a shot.

chrisj94 · Post by **chrisj94** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:29 pm

Edwards just added another photo to his post,hope its to everyones taste!
Like to here your comments people!
Thanks
All the best
Chris

JonathonAG · Post by **JonathonAG** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:31 pm

Looks very good, now that we have a close up, and at least it is the nearest thing to a J36 we've got.
Until someone actually makes a model of a J36, it is the best substitute we have got so lets hear some encouragement for Chris

markw · Post by **markw** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:01 pm

Being serious for a minute, I really hope Paul (Decapod) is fairly easy going, as all this going on about the J36 might have really annoyed other model makers, to the point where they decide to leave freeware if their work isn't being respected. Don't forget, if Paul lost his patience over this issue you wouldn't just lose models but also some very useful utilities like Shape File Manager and Shape viewer.

If a modeller says no, walk away. Don't moan, don't try and apply "pressure" by uploading pictures, just accept the decision and try and find another way of satisying your wants. The modeller will have put a huge amount of their precious free time into doing the model, it is the same as someone doing a painting or a sculpture. In the same way as most painters would refuse to have their work repainted into Constable's Haywain becuase someone likes the frame but prefers Constable, some modellers don't like their work repainted to represent a completely different loco which looks a bit similar. I would hope a painting or sculpture would be afforded some respect, so please show respect for the model in this case.

I know if this harping on about the J36 gets up Paul's nose and leads him to withdraw from the freeware scene there will be some very angry UKTS members around, not at Paul, but at those who preciptated any such move.