Smoke Colour

jimmyladd · Post by **jimmyladd** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 9:40 pm

Are there any eng experts out there who can cast their thoughts on this? The smoke on steam loco's varies in quantity and colour (black to white), diesels only vary in intensity and volume. Would it be possible to make a diesel produce white smoke under acceleration? I am thinking of an eng file mod for a deltic to produce tons of white clag on acceleration.
Cheers, Jim

mattcarey · Post by **mattcarey** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 9:46 pm

jimmyladd wrote:Are there any eng experts out there who can cast their thoughts on this? The smoke on steam loco's varies in quantity and colour (black to white), diesels only vary in intensity and volume. Would it be possible to make a diesel produce white smoke under acceleration? I am thinking of an eng file mod for a deltic to produce tons of white clag on acceleration.
Cheers, Jim

I am not sure if that can be done, but it is a great idea!!!!

Regards

Matthew

rufiky4 · Post by **rufiky4** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:16 pm

Unfortunately it isn't possible. There is only one clag colour in MSTS1 - and that is black... and also clag cannot be made to vary with acceleration, just the amount of power the engine is putting down, i.e. 0% throttle = little clag, 100% throttle = lots of clag. Yet another annoying limitation of MSTS I'm afraid.

Chris

jimmyladd · Post by **jimmyladd** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:52 pm

How dose msts change the colour of clag with a steam engine?

micksasse · Post by **micksasse** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:17 pm

Yes, another annoying limitation - wouldn't it be particularly good to have 2-strokes (e.g. Deltics) destroying all the local laundry when they first open up...

baldwin · Post by **baldwin** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 12:53 pm

jimmyladd wrote:How dose msts change the colour of clag with a steam engine?

That is coded into the sim engine to represent the changes caused by the adding and burning of coal, and the presence of air, or otherwise within the firebox.

Mervyn

jimmyladd · Post by **jimmyladd** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:21 am

Oh well I suppose that has killed that off then......
Cheers, Jim

danielgwr · Post by **danielgwr** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:40 pm

Would it be possible to change the eng. file on a diesel to make it put out the smoke that is produced on steam engines?

buffy500 · Post by **buffy500** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:16 pm

danielgwr wrote:Would it be possible to change the eng. file on a diesel to make it put out the smoke that is produced on steam engines?

Only by making it a steamer, and having all the controls the same as a steamer

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:54 pm

buffy500 wrote:
danielgwr wrote:Would it be possible to change the eng. file on a diesel to make it put out the smoke that is produced on steam engines?
Only by making it a steamer, and having all the controls the same as a steamer

Leader/class 59 anyone?

jimmyladd · Post by **jimmyladd** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:29 pm

Good point! I have not given up just yet!

ianmacmillan · Post by **ianmacmillan** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:09 am

What about an invisible AI steamer with the smoke output positioned on the diesel.

You could use the invisiwag .s and .sd files and a non powered loco .eng file. AI loco would give white smoke.

jimmyladd · Post by **jimmyladd** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:43 pm

Brilliant! I think we are starting to get somewhere now, the only problem is that I don't know haw to make an invisible steamer!!!

Cheers, Jim

REGGY · Post by **REGGY** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 12:13 am

do you think i can have blue smoke dont like black can not see thow it

trackdancer · Post by **trackdancer** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 2:12 am

If you think about it, the black smoke coming out of diesels is not very realistic. I've seen a lot of large US diesels haul really heavy loads on stiff grades over the passes both up in Northern as well as Southern California passes. Are they smoking, yes - but it's more grey than the black stuff in MSTS and not to the extent as suggested by the simulator.

Anything diesel that gives off the amount of black smoke (as suggested by MSTS) within the State of California is probably in serious need of a visit to the shops, and within the State of California, with its tough Air Quality Laws, would in all likelihood be also facing a stiff fine.

To address the problem, there is an ace file in the global directory that is used for diesel smoke. You can edit/replace that with something perhaps more prototypical.

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