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Some thoughts on Berms
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 3:26 pm
by refman
These are some berms ( embankments ) I have been playing around with to see if I could find an easy method of adding them to my new Kingsbridge branch.
First I made a 20m length of single track fencing ( placed on both sides of the track )
Then I tested this as a gantry item to see if it worked OK.
Next I added the berm to the fencing making it about 4m longer than the fence.
The ace file for the berm has transparent end to allow the things to overlap a bit.
I set the origin point just about track height, and then added them as a gantry item.
After placing you need to pick out each piece to make it a terrain object to allow the track to show.
I am very pleased with the results.
Re: Some thoughts on Berms
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 3:46 pm
by mpeffers
Had this idea pop into my head a while back actually but I never got round to experimenting with it. To be honest, I'm generally quite happy with normal terrain embankments - I only really use berms for embankments where there's scenic items or roads/rivers in close proximity to the track that would otherwise be covered by the embankment. A set of gantry style cuttings to tidy up the edges of cuttings would be a lot more useful, but sadly, a lot more complex to get working.
Re: Some thoughts on Berms
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 4:26 pm
by ianmacmillan
One minor point.
The embankments were railway property so the fence would be at the bottom of them.
You would only find a fence at the top for safety purposes.
Re: Some thoughts on Berms
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 6:09 pm
by alanch
refman wrote:
These are some berms ( embankments ) I have been playing around with to see if I could find an easy method of adding them to my new Kingsbridge branch.
First I made a 20m length of single track fencing ( placed on both sides of the track )
Then I tested this as a gantry item to see if it worked OK.
Next I added the berm to the fencing making it about 4m longer than the fence.
The ace file for the berm has transparent end to allow the things to overlap a bit.
I set the origin point just about track height, and then added them as a gantry item.
After placing you need to pick out each piece to make it a terrain object to allow the track to show.
I am very pleased with the results.
Real world embankments have much shallower gradients (usually about 30 degrees, I believe) - yours would rapidly flow down to form a large muddy puddle at ground level once they had absorbed a little rainfall, leaving the track suspended in mid air.

Re: Some thoughts on Berms
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 3:41 pm
by refman
Thanks for the comments guys. So now I`v lost the fencing and made the sides a little less steep.
I also based the first occupation underbridge on my berm master, and it all fitted together quite well.
Re: Some thoughts on Berms
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:58 pm
by terrycunliffe
Nice.....
In fact VERY nice indeed!
Terry
Re: Some thoughts on Berms
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:08 am
by jbilton
terrycunliffe wrote:Nice.....
In fact VERY nice indeed!
Terry
Agreed.
Cheers
Jon
Re: Some thoughts on Berms
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:49 am
by Buckeye
Hi refmam
Looks like the start of something good.
buckeye.
Re: Some thoughts on Berms
Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:41 am
by danielw2599
Yes that certainly looks good. Are you thinking of sticking it in the download library at some point?
Could do with something like that on my route

Re: Some thoughts on Berms
Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 6:45 pm
by refman
I will upload my berm files if anyone thinks they will be useful.
Re: Some thoughts on Berms
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:48 pm
by pitleyfalley
That could be an absoloute godsend, got quite a few emabankments that look a bit of a mess... I notice your using tundra's terrtex, any chance of versions in terrain.ace and meadow.ace?
Chris
Re: Some thoughts on Berms
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:30 pm
by refman
Now uploaded ( UKTS FILE ID 21365 ) awaiting approval.
Only the single track version at the moment, but it should be possible to increase the width ( X axis ) with SFM.
The texture file is very simple and can be changed to suit any route quite easily .
I think you could change textures and have a number of berms to cover various areas.
It is also possible to produce a berm that would blend with two others.
Let me know what you think guys.
Re: Some thoughts on Berms
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:52 pm
by charles9malcolm
Downloaded the berms and got them installed. What a hugely useful addition to the route builder’s tool kit! Any chance of some double and quadruple track versions refman?
Re: Some thoughts on Berms
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:50 pm
by jbilton
Hi
Excellent Reg.
Cheers
Jon