Glasgow - Carlisle v3

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Re: Glasgow - Carlisle v3

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simon3747 wrote:I'm rather afraid I'm going to throw a spanner in the works here and say my preference would definitely be for option A. Niall fill in those scenery gaps, you do it soooo well mate.

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Hmm. I'm facing a similar problem with my Chiltern route. Do I extend the trackwork to add the branches from Princes Risborough to Watlington and Thame or do I carry on with the both interesting and tedious process of adding scenery to the route? Then again, does it have to be an either/or? I've ended up doing both and simply accepting that the timeframe for completion of the route is getting more and more extended. I am sure you will find this a totally unhelpful response, Niall :lol:
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Re: Glasgow - Carlisle v3

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Hi Martin,
It's great to have you back. :D
With reference to your branches and taking into account my non-existent knowledge of route building, could you include the start of the branches in question to a point where they disappear from view and carry forward on the main. Then work on the branches and release a v2 of the route with the branches included.

This may not be practical or even possible.

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Re: Glasgow - Carlisle v3

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docmartin wrote:Hmm. I'm facing a similar problem with my Chiltern route. Do I extend the trackwork to add the branches from Princes Risborough to Watlington and Thame or do I carry on with the both interesting and tedious process of adding scenery to the route? Then again, does it have to be an either/or? I've ended up doing both and simply accepting that the timeframe for completion of the route is getting more and more extended. I am sure you will find this a totally unhelpful response, Niall :lol:
Yup, absolutely useless, waste of bandwith! :lol: :wink:

Definitely either or for me. Just don't want to spend as much time on it as I have in past.
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Delighted to be so unhelpful, Niall! If you really twist my arm, I would say go with the scenery, rather than leaving the route slightly incomplete, and resist the temptation to extend it still farther.

A pity, I can't take my own advice...Doug, I have decided to take the branches as far as the first major station on each one - Chinnor and Thame respectively. This will be well beyond the point where they are no longer visible from the main line.
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NiallGray wrote:Just don't want to spend as much time on it as I have in past.
Well, in that case, I'd be inclined to simply go with the scenery as there is only so much you can put in; yet you could think "oh I'll just lay the track to the next station..." if you do go down the route of adding track :-)
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docmartin wrote: Do I extend the trackwork to add the branches from Princes Risborough to Watlington and Thame or do I carry on with the both interesting and tedious process of adding scenery to the route? Then again, does it have to be an either/or?
Oh the joys and thrills of MSTS. Personally I think we should congratulate MS on creating a programme that is so stimulating to the mind. Mind you having spent time during the working day making decisions, sometimes one prefers not to have to make so many at home and in particular for MSTS!

Just remember to KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON!!!!!!

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Re: Glasgow - Carlisle v3

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Hi all :)

I have been doing some work on my copy of the route installing some custom overhead wires, this will allow the non electrified parts of the route to be unwired unlike the default MSTS wire, Hidewire would achieve the same result but the custom wire shapes look much more realistic than MSTS default washing line wire.

I have so far wired the route from Carlisle to the north of Law junction, and I have adjusted the catenary masts to meet up with the contact positions on the wire where possible from Carlisle to just south of Beattock, I have only been working on it for the last week or so, hopefully it will be finished soon as long as I don't encounter any problems on the way.

Niall has kindly given me permission to upload some screenshots of the finished sections.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk27 ... sCar11.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk27 ... asCar7.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk27 ... asCar3.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk27 ... asCar5.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk27 ... asCar4.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk27 ... asCar6.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk27 ... asCar8.jpg

http://forums.uktrainsim.com/download.p ... ew&id=1258

Thanks again to Niall for giving me permission to upload the screenshots.

Does anyone know how to get Photobucket pictures to show?
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Re: Glasgow - Carlisle v3

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Those of you who use the route, I'd appreciate your feedback on the pics as if it's popular enough, I'll include it in a future patch.

Mark, any chance you could show us an area where there's a mix or electrified and non electrified lines, please?

Good work from what I can see so far. :D

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Here are some screenshots with a mix of electrified and non electrified lines.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk27 ... sCar29.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk27 ... sCar28.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk27 ... sCar27.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk27 ... sCar26.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk27 ... sCar25.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk27 ... sCar20.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk27 ... sCar19.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk27 ... sCar17.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk27 ... sCar16.jpg

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Re: Glasgow - Carlisle v3

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Hi Mark,
Great shots, and and a very necessary improvement I think.
It just goes to show. There is no excuse regards realism with MSTS.
As has been said but is worth repeating. I for one appreciate the effort put in by you object/route /stock builders.
Thank you ALL.

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Re: Glasgow - Carlisle v3

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douglee wrote:Hi Mark,
Great shots, and and a very necessary improvement I think.
It just goes to show. There is no excuse regards realism with MSTS.
As has been said but is worth repeating. I for one appreciate the effort put in by you object/route /stock builders.
Thank you ALL.

Good luck
Doug

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Re: Glasgow - Carlisle v3

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Hi Niall,
All made and intended in a positive way I can assure you.
If you mean this part:-
NiallGray wrote:Great shots, and and a very necessary improvement I think.
A very necessary improvement over having overhead wire and no gantry or overhead wire and gantry where there should be not any.

Referring to these posts.
markh5682 wrote:Hi all :)

I have been doing some work on my copy of the route installing some custom overhead wires, this will allow the non electrified parts of the route to be unwired unlike the default MSTS wire, Hidewire would achieve the same result but the custom wire shapes look much more realistic than MSTS default washing line wire.

Mark
Does that make more sense?

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Re: Glasgow - Carlisle v3

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Great work Mark with the removal of the gantries on the non-electrified track, it really does improve the realism of the route.
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Re: Glasgow - Carlisle v3

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A worthwhile improvement :)
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