Dorset Coast V6

[photons66]

Er, that's what I'm doing (I think!), with the G key and with the F8 display. Neither works, nor is it a 'stuck points problem' as Route Riter has checked the route for those anomalies and found none. The point blades are literally unresponsive to any sort of manual coercion.

[coolhand101]

1. Basingstoke DS to DF - in Explore mode I do get the problem, however, if I run the same path in an activity I do not.
Dave

Hi
This is because you cannot set the points in advance to cross from the DS to the DF only from the DS to the sidings in explore mode. If you have set these points prior then set them back and after you have crossed these points and set the route from the DS to DF MSTS will relay the speed to the sidings on to the mainline. I've edited quite a few routes in my time and the only solution i found was to add dummy speeds just pass the "ghost" speed. The only downside then is that sometimes lower speed lines or sidings will have the higher speed but then at least you won't risk a chance of a derailment or speeding on the mainline.

Thanks

[stephenjrhodes]

Deleted The Screen shots
as request as it was in the wrong section.

[photons66]

Sorry everyone, the point does work south of Romsey, turns out I have to manually switch it literally before I leave the other line.

[salopiangrowler]

A few Shots of D1015 On the Dorset Coast

Screenshots in the Screenshots thread mate

Good shots anyway

[JunGRail]

So the new signals and speed limits will mean faster running?

Actually I found it to be the opposite. With two aspect signals you have to drive much more cautiously

Nothing has changed with settings though have they? still heavy loading at Waterloo, Clapham Junction and Southampton?

No nothing has changed - its still very demanding on the PC

Not a problem and not a problem, two signals just means more fun, after all it is fun. The size of this route is incredible.

[salopiangrowler]

it is a big route, and theres only Salisbury - Exeter left to do ok maybe not lol but it'd be a challenge.

[btrendell]

HI Guys,

Just been looking at previous post on WTTs.

Think you will find that most of the portions were probably attaced to other trains such as service trains to avoid an extra cost in paths then detached at their starting location for the return service. If there is no WTT for an ECS move then this will almost always be the case. Without looking at my guard/drivers diagrams from the 87 timetable that I have for the area I can't be definate but from what I recall this is what used to happen.

Jason.

Jason,

Looking at the WTTs for 85 and 86 there were no diesel only VB services up from Weymouth only the standard 4TC-4TC-33/1 on the back so could the empty NPVs have been attached to the rear if they were VB?. I know that 4TC-33/1-4TC diagrams were used on rare occasions so it was feasible. If this was done on the 0615 from Weymouth they could have been detached at Bournemouth and joined on to the 0735 ECS which ran back to Clapham Yard via Brockenhurst and Eastleigh yard.
The weight code used for time calculation show D280 for all up services that so there is no clue there.

Brian

[salopiangrowler]

Was just wondering weather it could of been a 33 leading a 4REP+4TC+Empty Vans then the train could continue as a service and have 08/09 pilot locos or whatever was availalbe to shunt empty vans for clapham junction at each pickup location.

If this service took nearly all day to get to Clapham Junction then i assume the train loco did 90% of the Shunting meaning the Vans would have been attached between the loco and the 4-8TC.

If Eastleigh was the last pickup point i see no reason why a rep couldnt be used and the 33 dropping at Eastleigh if the train was ECS as it could go Eastleigh straight into Clapham yard with the need to go into Waterloo meaning they wouldnt need a loco to detach the Vans and then the Passenger stock could be replenished and cleaned for the evening rush hour leaving the Vans at the Yard.

Although in Hellfire 1981 bashing simulator the last Weymouth-Waterloo and first Waterloo-Weymouth were a 33/73 throughout iirc especially the services that went straight to the Quay. i cant recall the first Weymouth Waterloo ever being diesel throughout. Things may have been different back in 1981 and the vans may have travelled as a Class 3 if used or 5 if ECS to Clapham Yard, both of which are not simulated in Hellfire.

[btrendell]

Was just wondering weather it could of been a 33 leading a 4REP+4TC+Empty Vans then the train could continue as a service and have 08/09 pilot locos or whatever was availalbe to shunt empty vans for clapham junction at each pickup location.

If this service took nearly all day to get to Clapham Junction then i assume the train loco did 90% of the Shunting meaning the Vans would have been attached between the loco and the 4-8TC.

If Eastleigh was the last pickup point i see no reason why a rep couldnt be used and the 33 dropping at Eastleigh if the train was ECS as it could go Eastleigh straight into Clapham yard with the need to go into Waterloo meaning they wouldnt need a loco to detach the Vans and then the Passenger stock could be replenished and cleaned for the evening rush hour leaving the Vans at the Yard.

Although in Hellfire 1981 bashing simulator the last Weymouth-Waterloo and first Waterloo-Weymouth were a 33/73 throughout iirc especially the services that went straight to the Quay. i cant recall the first Weymouth Waterloo ever being diesel throughout. Things may have been different back in 1981 and the vans may have travelled as a Class 3 if used or 5 if ECS to Clapham Yard, both of which are not simulated in Hellfire.

I agree with you that this makes sense however the Vans were VB and the 438(4TC) AB so the Vans had to be attached to the loco for the brakes to work. The 5B20 ECS service from Bournemouth to Brockenhurst was listed as ED(class 73)420 dep at 0715 and was VB. This then became 2B20 dep Brockenhurst at 0756 and went to Eastleigh as ECS. 5B40 dep Eastleigh at 0845 and shown as empty news vans to Clapham Yard.

It would seem plausible therefore that the vans from Weymouth would have been on the back of 1W04 dep at 0615 and uncoupled at Bournemouth. This is shown as D280 P so 2 x 4TC and a 33/1.

Brian

[cilperiswh]

it is a big route, and theres only Salisbury - Exeter left to do ok maybe not lol but it'd be a challenge.

There is only YVJ to EXD left to do.

i hope that dave does do a DC v7 but not untill after the passing loop between Axminister has been made to make for more intresting activities down that way, maybe also after the waterloo international platfroms have been opened too. Dave is a busy man and has lots of other things to work on but i hope sometime in the next few years this ultimate development to the Dorset Coast route is created.

Matt

[gswindale]

i hope that dave does do a DC v7 but not untill after the passing loop between Axminister has been made to make for more intresting activities down that way, maybe also after the waterloo international platfroms have been opened too.

You can already use the International platforms if you so wish.

[cilperiswh]

i hope that dave does do a DC v7 but not untill after the passing loop between Axminister has been made to make for more intresting activities down that way, maybe also after the waterloo international platfroms have been opened too.

You can already use the International platforms if you so wish.

yep but what i meant was the waterloo development using the international platforms its hard to explain what i mean. sorry if was misunderstood.

[salopiangrowler]

if the passing loop at axminster isnt their in real life then it wont go into the route now. and the International platforms are usable its just MSTS does not have a single Eurostar that works on third rail.. the international platforms are usable but are really for AI trains sake even though the Eurostars we have, have permenantly fixed pantographs unfortunatley.

Eurostars operated 3rd rail out of Waterloo if you find in suprising that the lack of overhead power lines is evident.

I think i know what you mean, they just never get used because of the unrealistic visuals that the eurostar creates with a raised pantograph.

[davejc64]

So when will V6 be available on DVD?