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Channel tunnel Route: needs to be done?
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2002 11:59 am
by montylowe2
HI all
Just woundering could the channel tunnel be done? Or is anyone doing it. Thel track in the tunnel would have to be edited! and so would the walls of the tunnel etc , so could it be done? This would mean that the whole route from Waterloo-Paris or Brussels.
your thoughts ?
Many Thanks
Richard Lowe
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2002 12:13 pm
by qzdcg8
Hasn't it already been done?
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2002 12:17 pm
by cadet200
i think it's on the just trains euro loco pack or tgv, something like that. anyway, i don't fancy it, 30 miles of concrete tunnel? no thanks.
duuno
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2002 12:18 pm
by montylowe2
HI all
-Steve I dont know ! At lest I dont think Carn't have been that amazing if anyone has, haven't heard anything abou it!
Many Thanks
Richard Lowe
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2002 12:58 pm
by montylowe2
Hi all
Who said i'll do it??
Many thanks
Richard Lowe
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2002 4:28 pm
by asalmon
It is a commercial pack - pop down to your computer store, or go to
http://www.eurobeanbahn.co.uk or
http://www.justtrains.net or
http://www.amazon.co.uk or your favourite games retailer.
There is a review in the review section of
http://www.uktrainsim.com
-Alan
my vote etc
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2002 1:07 pm
by wrightsie
i didnt volunteer to do it, but if anyone does decided to do it, let me know, i have track plans for the new strech to st pancress{the high speed route, channel tunnel link}. i would also like to help build something like this, but i've never built a route or a train before, and i only have a 8gb harddrive that is shared by the family, so i'm probably no use!
Re: Channel tunnel Route: needs to be done?
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2002 2:27 pm
by rsfielding
While on the subject, just done a test in RE with a short consist, and the Shuttle will not fit through the default round tunnel. New larger ones will have to be made (or are any included in xtracks?).
Ryan Fielding
MCT
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2002 2:46 pm
by ianm42
Yep, they are biggys. I like the way that, on the NEC, if you go for the passenger view on the car deck, every now and then a catenery post passes through you
Also, as an aside, two of the cars travelling on the shuttle belong to members of this forum. I wonder where they are going? Fact finding tour?
Yeah I know
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2002 6:15 pm
by montylowe2
HI all
The just Channel tunnel route doesn't seem impressive oundering if anyone one who is a good at modeling that can design the 2 terminals for the Le shuttle and Paris and waterloo.
Thats all, It would really look good!
many Thanks
Richard Lowe
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2002 9:39 pm
by LucaZone
Looking at the TGV pack from Justtrains, the attempt at the Euro Tunnel is rather poor. For a commercial product, the impression it gives of the euro tunnel looks like they watched the film 'Mission Impossible' and went from there.
I have large resources covering the 2 eurotunnel terminals. Once i get into how the route builder and modellers work, i will endeaver to take on this project. Giving it the justice and effort it so requires.

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2002 9:56 pm
by Goingnorth
LucaZone wrote:Looking at the TGV pack from Justtrains, the attempt at the Euro Tunnel is rather poor. For a commercial product, the impression it gives of the euro tunnel looks like they watched the film 'Mission Impossible' and went from there.
I have large resources covering the 2 eurotunnel terminals. Once i get into how the route builder and modellers work, i will endeaver to take on this project. Giving it the justice and effort it so requires.

Ohhh! Don't say that. I said something along simliar lines (excuse the pun) as did someone else and we both had emails and phone calls from the thought police.
Still, I'll will look forward to your version.

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2002 10:55 pm
by LucaZone
serious?
Wel my interest is games development, and ive been working in FPS level design for many years now, and want to try something new ;P I very small gallery can be found
HERE. Im also currently working on my website, which will include projects such as this. It can be found here ::
http://www.futrondesign.co.uk. Though its only got a quick Flash advert type thing on it atm.
Ive been doing alot of graphic design of recent and i wanna get back to architecture and landscaping.
Ive temperarily lost FTP access, but wonce i get it back i will post some images of what i have planned

I aim to impress and thats what i intend to do on this

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2002 3:12 pm
by Goingnorth
Yeah I'm deadly serious. It got quite nasty. From what I'm led to believe I upset quite a few people with some of the things I say sometimes. I suppose it doesn't help when a 'respected' route builder says your product isn't as good as maybe it could be.
There's nothing wrong with the TGV pack, for what it is a good product, but it doesn't smack of reality...it's a depiction and the publisher/author have now clearly stated this. So that's fair enough.
Problem is we are a very demanding bunch and standards are going up all the time. Sometimes it is very difficult to make a good business case for some of the products, especially routes. Very few have got all the skills that are needed to do really good stuff and until MSTS goes really prime time then earnings from commercial products with be relatively low. I'm privy to some of the profits that add-ons have made. Quite honestly, especially with routes, it's more profitable flipping burgers for a living at the mo....if what if been told is true.
We should support all add-on makers, whether that's freeware or payware. And try to constructively add criticism if needed. I admit I wasn't that tactful about the TGV pack.
By the sounds of it you come from the right background for route building, if you need and help on railway matters give me a shout.
Cheers
Rob

pitcures
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 7:03 pm
by jolly