future building?

[popol]

I am thinking about begin the building of a route for TS. I know it will be a very difficult project, and as I haven't got a very good computer, it'll be harder! Moreover, as I haven't got holidays this summer, it will be a very long project.
Now the problem is which line could I build? i'm hesitating between 3 :
1- The silverlink between Willesden Junction and Clapham Junction, which is a quite little line, and so, a very good one for begin.
2- The Thameslink metro to Sutton ( as London bridge to Brighton is already built), but i don't which north terminus I can choose. (I will not build the all line for my first project!)
3- The district line of LU, between, for the first part, Edgware Road and Wimbledon/Kensington Olympia.

As I live in France, quite far from the London area, and as I will not go in England before a long time, I'd like to know for which project I will find the more informations about the line and the surrounding (photos, tracks maps,...).

Moreover, I'd like to know if there is one of these project currently being made.

And last, but not least, which project do you want to see?

I'd like to point that I am just thinking about building a route, so don't blame me if you don't have news before ages! I have to find all the information before beginning the line, so the building isn't ready to begin!

Thanks for all your advice!

Paul

[salopiangrowler]

Well i think someone might be doing the thameslink route.

Reading - Guildford would be good or the North London Line as ive never heard of this being built, and with Docklands taking over Canning Town to North woolwich, it'd be nice to have a route to remember the silverlink 313's by.

[metroshed]

Hi Paul.

I did intend building a Richmond-Broad St route in UKFS (which would have included the (then) Clapham freight line), though due to the unavailability at the time of curved 4th rail sections, I decided to put it on hold. I may return to it one day but if anyone else want's to have a go, please feel free - I have another slightly larger project on the go at the moment (the old LSWR route) so I'll be tied up for many months to come.

If I can help with photos, map co-ords etc, just let me know. (I happen to work for a nearby TOC!)

Don't forget Shepherds Bush and Imperial Wharf - due to open early next year (allegedly!)

Kind Regards
Martin

[popol]

If anyone has any informations about the line clapham jcn - Willesden Junction, please, let me know.

Thank you very much

Paul

[metroshed]

Hi Paul

If anyone has any informations about the line clapham jcn - Willesden Junction, please, let me know.

Thank you very much

Paul

What info are you after? As I said previously, it's one of our routes, therefore info should be easy to obtain, just let me know exactly what you want.

Regards
Martin

[popol]

Hi Martin
I need the map of the tracks, the gradiants, and all these sorts of things. After, I'll need some photos, but I must put the tracks before begin to modelise the landscape.

Thanks

Paul

[metroshed]

Hi Paul,

I don't think I'll have much luck with track diagrams as such - (I may be able to obtain schematic diagrams from certain official publications), though gradient profiles could be possible. Unfortunately I will be away from the office until monday afternoon.

Tell me what photos you want - and I'll see what I can do (provided no lineside access is required)

As regards the District Line, you'll probably need to contact drjimi, who I believe is currently constructing a (very good) version of the Richmond - Victoria area of the District Line. He sounds like your best bet.

Will be in touch.

Regards
Martin

[popol]

Hello Martin!

I need photos of the stations, in order to make the tracks like they are in reality. No need of the building or the scenery at this time.

The schematic diagrams will be very good.

Concerning the district line project, I wait to finish the silverlink project before beginning it, so I think we'll speak of it in few years...
And if drjimi is making it, I don't think I would build it!

I did intend building a Richmond-Broad St route in UKFS (which would have included the (then) Clapham freight line

Another questions. Where is Broad St? I can find it on any map.
Have you save your project? I wondered if I could use your old project to include it in mine. (if you are ok with that, obviously, and if it fits with my project!)

And last but not least, when I'll start to build the line, must I begin by put the tracks, or must i begin by modelate the landscape?

Thank you very much for your help.

Paul

[arabiandisco]

Broad Street is the only London terminus to have disappeared. It was right next to Liverpool Street (western edge), and was the terminus of the "North London Railway" or somesuch. Now it's an office complex, though the East London Line is planned to run along the approach viaduct through Hackney.

[trains2]

Reading - Guildford would be good

This is basically being done by Ade Cousins (Mole259) - Ascot - Guildford, although it hasnt been touched for a while I believe while he works on South Western Lines.

Cheers

[metroshed]

And last but not least, when I'll start to build the line, must I begin by put the tracks, or must i begin by modelate the landscape?

Paul

When starting a new route,
1 - I would DEM all terrain (see thread at start of rote builders forum).
2 - Then I would do an extensive marker file with flags every 500m.
3 - Then lay track, using the marker flags as you go.

IF YOU HAVEN'T GOT IT ALREADY - MAY I SUGGEST YOU OBTAIN MICHAEL VONE'S ROUTE BUILDING GUIDE. WITHOUT IT, YOU'LL NEVER ACHIEVE YOUR ROUTE.

I could help with step 2 if you require.

Will be in touch.

Regards
Martin

[popol]

Hi

I had a problem with my computer, so I couldn't go on like I would ! It's now ok.

I downloaded Demex, and I wonder if I need any autorisations from the author of this software.

And if someone can give the exact "coordinates" (I'm not sure of the word ) of the station, I would be very grateful.
I need the ones of Willesden station (Up and Down), Clapham Junction, Olympia, West Brompton, and if it's possible, the one of Sheperd Bush and Chelsea Harbour.

Thanks for your help

Paul

[metroshed]

Hi Paul.

AFAIK - I don't think you need 'permission' as such to use DEMEX - assuming any route you build is for personal use/freeware. Others may know more about this than I do (read the stickies at the top of the RB forum)

Regarding co-ordinates: Latitude/Longitude

Willesden Junction (HL) - 51.5319/-0.2437
Willesden HL Junction - 51.5306/-0.2443
Mitre Bridge Junction - 51.5270/-0.2361
North Pole Junction - 51.5225/-0.2297
Kensington Olympia - 51.4974/-0.2091
West Brompton - 51.4869/-0.1948
Chelsea Bridge - 51.4732/-0.1787
Latchmere Junction - 51.4711/-0.1677
Clapham Junction - 51.4652/-0.1704

Something to bear in mind, the North Pole - Olympia section has the highest line speed on Silverlink Metro (70 mph).

Hope this is of some use. Unfortunately building of the new stations has yet to begin. Also I am still trying to lay my hands on those track diagrams. I should have time tomorrow (........buckled rails and signal failures permitting..!!)

Regards
Martin

[popol]

Hi!

Thanks for the co-ordinates, it's was exactly what I need.
I've DEM the terrain, but as I work and i'm not at home during the week end, the route progress slowly.
I'll begin to lay the route markers with flags as soon as possible.

I'll certainly need your help for that, I'll let you know in this case.

regards

Paul