East Suffolk Railway

ianmacmillan · Post by **ianmacmillan** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:21 pm

There are these. . . .

Traction units for the 19th Century coal wagons - V2.0 [861565 bytes] - Horse.zip
File ID: 5848 Date: 01 Jun 2003 - 793 Downloads

bigian · Post by **bigian** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:49 pm

hi ian.
thanks for the 1 hp traction units .
I wonder if not so faded glory can use them on his super ,smashing . brilliant . east suffolk line .
ian

ianmacmillan · Post by **ianmacmillan** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:15 pm

These units are at least 6HP.

The guy who thought up horse power got his calculations wrong.

A big Clydesdale can be 14HP.

fadedGlory · Post by **fadedGlory** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:56 am

The units in action on the tramway:

The only drawback is that they don't move their legs! The donkey from the other site does, so there's a challenge for someone

fG

bigian · Post by **bigian** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 10:50 pm

hi jur.
im still waiting for that book with ipswich station , is it the station buildings you want or do you want track plans aswell .
if you do want track plans have a look on pcrail.co.uk they have a sim of ipswich and the track plan with all signals in the correct places .
did you get those plans of the swing bridges i put in the post .
ian

fadedGlory · Post by **fadedGlory** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 2:54 pm

Ian,

Both track plans and station buildings would be great.

I may have received the drawings, I'm away on business right now (and will be for some more time) so I haven't checked the mail. I'll ask the authorities back home if something has arrived!

For the same reason the route has not progressed, but I have found some time to work on the skin of the J15. It's getting there!

fG

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:44 pm

Would 2 horses pull 2 wagons? I imagine 16 to 18 tons of loaded coal wagon would be about their limit to get moving.

bigian · Post by **bigian** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:12 pm

i have found some pics of the tramway taken from the station bridge and a pic of the power units, 2 double heading 1 van with the driver and guard in attendance .
i have some pics of ipswich station but a pic of the station forecourt is as rare as the waste product of wooden power units .
ian

thenudehamster · Post by **thenudehamster** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:39 pm

The one photo I have of the Tramway, taken by R.C. Riley in October '56, shows two horse power hauling a single bogie bolster wagon carrying what seem to be about 8 concrete lamp-posts.

jimbob · Post by **jimbob** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:16 pm

saddletank wrote:Would 2 horses pull 2 wagons? I imagine 16 to 18 tons of loaded coal wagon would be about their limit to get moving.

I am sure they could, you could get that moving just by pushing it yourself on the flat, Steel wheels on Steel rails gives very little resistance.

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:43 pm

One wagon is easy to ride on and brake, but two wagons constitutes a train where forces like slack and inertia may make it dangerous for the horse. There may be good reason (even legal ones) why a horse drawn train is limited to one wagon.

I have no idea if this is true or not, this it was just a point of discussion that interested me.

fadedGlory · Post by **fadedGlory** » Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:29 pm

Does anybody have a track plan of Ipswich, preferably dating back to before the singling of the East Suffolk Line?

Or know where I can find one?

Much appreciated,

Jur

jimbob · Post by **jimbob** » Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:56 pm

Jur,

I know a man who might be able to get hold of one, leave it with me!

batroost · Post by **batroost** » Wed Nov 17, 2004 7:44 pm

Just noticed this route!

Looking forward to downloading it. Don't usually get involved with Standard Gauge stuff but...

I've lived in Wickham Market now for 8-years. I'm even (would you believe!) chairman of the Wickham Market Parish Council...

BTW: There's rumblings that the station name might be changed to 'Campsea Ashe' because, strictly speaking, that's where it is - nearly two miles outside of Wickam Market.

Good luck with the Route.

Batroost (:evilbat:)

fadedGlory · Post by **fadedGlory** » Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:32 pm

Batroost,

Hey, that 's interesting! Always good to meet someone with local knowledge. I've lived in Lowestoft for 6 years and have travelled on the ESR a number of times.

It is a while ago, one thing I would really like to refresh my memory on is the colour of the bricks used for the standard ESR station buildings. Can you remind me, is it a greyish-yellow sort of bricks or are they red?

fG

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