Biggest cock-up you have made in RE?

kyle14uk · Post by **kyle14uk** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:41 pm

Whats the biggest .-up you have made whilst route building in the RE?

I have just spent about 4 hours trying to perfect Llandudno Jnc sidings and realised that I have layed all the track wrong. A lengthy rebuilding task awaits.

Just wanted to share my woes.

gooneebird · Post by **gooneebird** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 8:05 pm

http://forums.atomic-systems.com/viewto ... 357#209370 -- refer to the sentences in brackets, which is the majority of second paragraph in the message hyperlinked above.

Cheers

http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Bayou/4804/ a fictitious network serving London, Weymouth, and points in between

kyle14uk · Post by **kyle14uk** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 8:19 pm

60 miles?!?!?!

You must of been well p*ssed off.

alan2 · Post by **alan2** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 8:53 pm

I got a month into building Peak Rail and Discovered I was about 10 Meters too low at matlock. I had done all the gradients wrong. hehe.

Restarted from scratch again too.

Timcourt1 · Post by **Timcourt1** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 9:01 pm

After building fictional ECML V1.3 I suddenly realise at the end that not only had I put in 2 curves of a too small radius, I also had put the ponds the wrong side of the A1 at newark south .

To cap it all when building peterborough in the 1st version I had laid the track from the south to peterborough then from the north down to peterborough, unfortunately I chose a place that was on a slope and on a bend - this is why there is a crossing at peterborough, if you look in AE you will find all the tracks step over by 1 when coming from the south

This will be resolved in the next version!

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 9:38 pm

Biggest mistake I ever made in RE?

Starting Highworth.

Some days it made me just go

alan2 · Post by **alan2** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 9:41 pm

Can't say I haven't thought the smae sometimes.

but I am close to finishing now..... give it three years and i might actually like it enough to bring a cd to Ipswich.

oops! :-# Lips sealed. Nah, I am still working on my route.

everyday now.

terrycunliffe · Post by **terrycunliffe** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:56 pm

Spent a week laying track from New Lane to Southport, and then back out from Southport to supposedly meet up with track already laid northwards from Liverpool at Ainsdale.... except that they didn't meet 'cos I had loaded map details into TSTools incorrectly (grid references 1 'out' to the West) and therefore markers were placed in the wong place.
I then spent another week re-laying track, only to find out that I had made exactly the same error, this time loading the map 1 grid ref too far east! Wouldn't have been too bad, but Southport was a real . as regards track layout.
Talk about biting yer bum......
I have recently noticed that the track section between Warrington Central and Padgate, together with the Arpley area is slightly out of kilter due, again, to incorrect (careless!!!) map loading... This will have to remain uncorrected, as it's not too serious.
Cheers,
TC

jjules · Post by **jjules** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 11:42 pm

Biggest .-up for me, thus far? Hmm...how's this for starters:

I laid 14 miles of single-line track (in my fictional Kington - Leominster - Hereford route) from Kington to Leominster. With all that done, what do I realise? A modern day, 21st century HST route would require at the minimum two lines of track, not one. After removing 14 lines of tracks and building a double line for 14 miles, what do I find I've done? To begin with I had a singular set of points to send track down 20.2 miles to Hereford from Kington (the mileages are the only real-life thing in this route). Of course, my 14 miles of track would go over these points...Which meant I had to tear out those points. It didn't seem much at the beginning, but then I realised I needed more points as I would need to allow trains from both tracks to get onto the Hereford line, so I had to add more points, which took time to get right. Then those points just would not align with the 20 miles of track! So what was my only choice? Rip up 20 miles of track, replace it and hope like hell it would link up with the Leominster to Hereford line. Guess what? It didn't!!! Thus meant removing MORE track (another 9 miles) from Leominster to Hereford and replacing it with double line track (yes, I made the stupid single instead of double line track decision again!)! Then of course these new lines would all need to meet up in Hereford, the route's Southern terminus. Did this happen? No it flipping didn't! Which meant ripping out 4 platforms, another 1/2 mile of track and putting in quadruple track (thus allowing expansion at a later date) and putting in new platforms...

So, after ripping out dozens of miles of track, replacing stations and everything else, you'd expect this route to be nearly ready for release, right? WRONG!!! For as soon as I return from a two-week vacation from the route, I go to load it up to add scenery and signals. What happens? "Failed to open route". Click OK. "Road database read failed". The roads had not even been considered yet, the magnetic platform kits put themselves in the Road Sections location...

So, where do I go with the route now? Delete the lot and start again? No way, that would cause an absolutely mental outrage...I don't know what it's on about, so advice would be appreciated, before I go and put an axe to my TFT screen!

For the second course, my New Radnor - Kington line is also playing up, although to a far lesser extreme. It states it fails to read the track database. Attempts to rebuild the TDB fail...I'm only done a mile on that route as I needed a break from RE...How can I fix this insane problem RE has with me?!?!?!?

There's no third course, I haven't fallen out with RE that much yet (although there's one corner I can't find yet...)

cadet200 · Post by **cadet200** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:56 am

spent about 10 hours (yes, really) redoing rochdale on the caldervale and pulled the plug out of the socket accidentally.some of the words would have made roy chubby brown blush.

bigvern · Post by **bigvern** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 7:08 am

Spending hours perfecting some hills, then wreck 'em all by accidentally setting the conform angle to 2 degrees and by the time I'd realised already saved/unable to step back.

qzdcg8 · Post by **qzdcg8** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 7:18 am

Not starting again about 6 weeks into WH 1.0 when I got a 'no adjacent track loaded' message at Guide Bridge. There's a 'disconnected' 10m piece there to this day and as a result I lost a shed load of scenery between Fairfield and Guide Bridge when building WH V2.0

gooneebird · Post by **gooneebird** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 3:39 pm

kyle14uk wrote:60 miles?!?!?!

You must of been well p*ssed off.

Ohhhh, yeah! junctions and all. It wasn't so much the re-laying of the track; it was more the loss of the visuals of the line ahead snaking up, down and around.

Cheers

http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Bayou/4804/ a fictitious network serving London, Weymouth, and points in between

montylowe2 · Post by **montylowe2** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 4:01 pm

Hi all
Wey! I've been waitign for this topic for a long time...
The largest . up..hmmm I've had some big ones befre I got it into my head that ya carnt re-build track data base if ya add signal and that sort of stuff.
Well let me see..... Oh yeah, deleting some track complete with a few signals when that peice of track had at least 6 activities and and about 10 paths running through it!

HEHEHE.... I kick .! :drinking:

That was when I started 'GWR' (modern) a long time ago back in 2001 I think. The route crashed after then and so did MSTS!....Hmmm I wounder why!

Doing the route again...Lets hope I dont make the same mistake!

Regards
Richard Lowe

Post by **martinhodgson** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 4:08 pm

cadet200 wrote:spent about 10 hours (yes, really) redoing rochdale on the caldervale and pulled the plug out of the socket accidentally.some of the words would have made roy chubby brown blush.

Thats quite an impressive mistake