Crewe to Liverpool

[mikey2001]

The more the merrier, thats what I say!

[JohnEyres]

The more the merrier, thats what I say!

Absolutely!

Hope MSTS 2 doesn't screw us all up!

[qzdcg8]

We need to update the MSTS UK Route Map again now...

Three major terminus on one tile is a bit tricky - I've got lucky on WH2.5 - Victoria & Exchange are on a different tile to Piccadilly.

[dforrest]

So what stock would have been used in the early to mid sixties on this route?

[PaulH2]

Just wandering, will you include the branches frm Hoton to Chester and Elsmere Port as these sections weren't electrified till the mid ninties and would you consider doing the bidston to Wrexham line?

The Wirral lines to Chester and Wrexham will also be included in my Merseyrail 1980 route (in a later phase as I'm still short of reference material for Bidston to Wrexham). The route will probably also include the branh to Elsmere Port (obviously all these sections will not be electrified gioven the time frame of the route).

Only Lime Street deep level will be included in my route (along with the other underground stations on the Wirral and Northern lines).

Is the period of the route 1980 as I read in earlier posts?

That'll be the route I'm working on, which is indeed set around 1980 (well late 70s to mid 80s).

Looks like this area will be pretty well covered soon !

Paul

[gopher]

Pity David (ccsdc) kept this one quiet. If I had known about it I would have had a go at Lime St station for him. Always wanted to model a large canopy. Not many around in my part of north Wales

An excellent route, takes me back to my copping days at Edge Hill.

Gordon

[PaulH2]

Always wanted to model a large canopy. Not many around in my part of north Wales

I'm going to need Southport sooner or later !

Paul

[PaulH2]

Pity David (ccsdc) kept this one quiet.

It is. I probably wouldn't have bothered starting Merseyrail 1980 had I known, but I've invested a lot of time on research now so will plod on...

It is going to take a while, but I want to use mostly custom buildings. I certainly intend all the stations and major buildings to be custom.

Paul

[ccsdc]

It was not entirely kept secret! If you look at the post Crewe to Liverpool back in April it was announced that I was working on the route then.

I probably do not spend as much time on the forums as I should, but then there is never enough time in the day to do everything!!

[qzdcg8]

Don't worry about it - it depends whether you want to give out sneak peeks of stuff you think is not bad or unusual - everyone knew about Woodhead 2 and knows about 2.5 because I have tended to post pictures of it as I have been going along - I'm just getting to that point now where soon I'm going to reveal the look of Victoria and Exchange stations on the Route Building or Screenshots forums...

[mikey2001]

....yes, I like the sound of that. Very intriguing!

[PaulH2]

It was not entirely kept secret! If you look at the post Crewe to Liverpool back in April it was announced that I was working on the route then.

I probably do not spend as much time on the forums as I should, but then there is never enough time in the day to do everything!!

Its not a problem at all and I'm sorry if it came across as though I was complaining, that was certainly not my intention. As others have said, the more the merrier!

I obviously missed your April post (can't honestly remember when I announced Merseyrail 1980 but it was probably at a similar time I think). It is your perogative to develop anything you like, however you like and is none of my business, I should have kept my trap shut, sorry .

Anyhoo, nuf said I think. Your route looks great and is on my list of things to get around to downloading when I have the time. I'm looking forward to seeing Lime Street for myself.

Once again, my apologies if my previous post came across as criticism, no offence intended.

Paul

[gopher]

PaulH2 wrote

I'm going to need Southport sooner or later !

Hi Paul. Southport station eh. If you can wait about three months I will do it for you. Just the canopies and concourse though. You will have to use other platforms.
I am just finalising the Blaenau branch extension for R&B then doing a quick conversion pack to make the route look Irish. After that I'm doing the Glyn Valley Tramway which should only take about 10 weeks max including all the modelling. Then I will do the two trainsheds, Southport and Lime St if no one else has done them by then. Actually from what I recall from Southport, the roof will be quite easy.

As for route duplication, you can't have too much of a good thing. I doubt if two routes modelled on the same location would look an exact copy.

I'm just putting together another activity for Merseyside and was searching the library for an EMU (310's I think they where) only to find there are none. We seem to be missing quite a few classes when it comes to electrics. Any suggestions for EMU's I can use in BR blue.

Gordon

[PaulH2]

Southport station eh. If you can wait about three months I will do it for you. Just the canopies and concourse though.

Hi Gordon,

Southport is scheduled for phase 2 of the route (I'm doing the Wirral lines from West Kirby and New Brighton to Birkenhead Park (or maybe Hamilton Square) as phase 1. I currently expect phase 1 to be done sometime this Autumn, so I can easily wait 3 months!

Of course if anybody else is interested in helping with custom buildings for this route, that would almost certinaly speed things up !

As for EMUs, I'd like to have a go at classes 502 and 503 on the side (when my class 202 is done) for the Merseyrail lines themselves, but have struck a blank of drawings so far. As for Liverpool to Crewe, I think you're probably right about the 310, but I'm no expert on that. As you say, a general lack of EMUs overall...

Paul

[mikey2001]

I too have noticed the lack of AC EMUs on the UKTS website. The southern members of our community are fairly well catered for when it comes to EMUs but us northerners have very few to shout about - I dont think there are any pre-1990 northern EMU rolling stock on the entire database!