SCOTTISH CENTRAL GETS THE GREEN LIGHT.

[dee4141]

Another excellent video of this excellent route, thanks Geoff.

[steamnut44]

Scottish Central Plus Video Part 4

I thought it was only fair, to let you see some of Don's work on this route. Don as you know, has been the person responsible for adding all the extensions, signalling and all of the industrial complexes, that are scattered throughout the SCP. The WD loco 90774 "North British" was specially built for this route by Reg Furnis and as you will agree is a superb model. I'm not exactly sure, but Mick Young may also have some part in this loco's physics. My thank's must also go, to those who have contributed with many of the scenery items used throughout this route. Ok let's see the video.

Lines Of Industry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDAahb5lnws

Geoff

[ianmacmillan]

If a traffic inspector saw those consists he would foul his dubbs.

Breakdown unit must always be marshalled behind the engine.
NCB wagons were internal use and would never leave the colliery.
BR 9Fs were extremely rare in Scotland. The only time I ever saw one was on the Larbert tanks.
Unlikely a Crosti boiler version ever crossed the border.


But the route looks great.

[steamnut44]

Ian, I know I have not used consists to railway practice, but these are just videos showing parts of the route and some of the stock available in the route loco pack. Every time I post a screen shot or a video, you have to have a dig. Sorry to be a bit offish, but I am not familiar with railway procedures relating to what stock was used on certain trains. Please keep your critisism to yourself and let others enjoy all the work I am putting into this route. I will not be making up any activities for this route, because I am not familiar with stock movements. We have in the SCP team, those that do and they will be making up all the activities that come with the route.

Geoff

[ianmacmillan]

Geoff,
I'm sorry that I have upset you. It was not my intention.

I am looking forward to the route and admire all the work you are doing.

My comments were intended as constuctive. I apologise it they were taken any other way.

[steamnut44]

Hi Ian,
No you havent upset me and I know you mean well, by correcting my mistakes when making up trains for the screen shots or videos that I do. I am also aware that you are pretty knowlegable, when it comes to making up trains correctly. So for screen shot purposes regarding this route, you may yet see more mistakes from me, when it comes to making up trains. Just look at the scenery instead and it might not be so painful.

Geoff

[docmartin]

We obviously have a Steven Spielberg manque in our midst. A couple of beautifully put together videos, Geoff, which really show off the route to advantage and, I am sure, make us all drool in anticipation. I am absolutely amazed at how much of such high quality has been achieved in, what for MSTS route building, is a relatively short space of time. Also, Reg's WD loco, whether it should be north of the border or not, is a clearly a superb model, as is the model of the Tay Bridge - who built that? I take my hat off to him (or her).

As for the slight cross-purposes that Ian and Geoff seem to have got themselves into, I don't know whether this is pouring oil on troubled waters or not but recently I had an exchange of emails with Martin Pope. I had just finished driving his Derby to Penzance activities with great enjoyment but pointed out to him that I was surprised to see a southern region service originating in Plymouth, when it would have been far more likely to have met it going the "wrong" way through Exeter St. David's. Martin told me he was tempted to call me a "rivet counter" but refrained from doing so. If he had, it would have been the nicest thing anybody has said to me in a long time

[douglee]

Hi All,
I have been following this thread on the routes gestation with great interest but have not felt I could add much.
Re the last two or three posts. There is nothing wrong with accuracy be it Consists or Models it makes the difference between ordinary and great.
It is so easy to see something that is not right and dive in with a correction, because you know. I have been guilty of this but I hope to have done it considerately. I think most "corrections" of this kind are meant helpfully and it is the, economy in typing words, that makes them seem over critical. It's like the newbie posting "It don'twork. Why?"
Enough off topic.
Great looking route folks, done for the die hard MSTS brigade and I am looking forward to it as well.

Good luck
Doug

[steamnut44]

Your comments are noted Doug, maybe I was a bit harsh with Ian's corrections and I can see what you are trying to explain. Yes Don & I are dedicating this route to the MSTS die hard brigade and for any newcomers to MSTS. This simulator is still quite capable of producing some excellent routes and as far as I'm concerned I prefer it to Railsim/Railworks. Maybe the graphics are not quite on par with the latter, but this sim does perform much better as far as physics are concerned and making up activities is so much easier.

Geoff

[douglee]

Hi Geoff,
I suppose the reaction is a bit like telling a mother her baby is ugly. Maternal instinct kicks in and Scottish Central is your baby.
I agree with your thoughts on MSTS and since my replacement Graphics Card it looks and runs even better.
This has been said many times before but I only wish I had the aptitude to handle the various packages used in creating content. Then I could put in more than two activities.

Anyhow good luck with the rest and don't get put off.

Good luck
Doug

[steamnut44]

Perth to Ladybank including Newburgh Harbour Branch

Two more videos for you from the SCP. These two videos show some of the route from Perth to Ladybank and is in two parts.
Part 1 Perth to Newburgh.
Part 2 Newburgh to Ladybank including Newburgh Harbour Branch.

These will be the last videos until after the New Year, as I need to crack on with finishing the route. But I will put up more videos as and when time permitts.

Geoff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eVAmc9M798

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBQgu0Kme6M

[slipperman12]

Hi Geoff,
Thanks for two more great videos of this route! I don't much about railways in Scotland, but my pennies are ready for this one.

I was pleased to see one of my favourite locos - the Midland Compound. However, I noticed its number was the same as the one in the Burton-Derby route and the loco itself looks the same; is there any chance of a more up to date, texture-wise etc., version in this route? Apologies if this is an updated version, in which case, I'll blame the YouTube video for not showing it at its best!

Cheers,
Ged

[mickrik]

Hi Ged,

Midland 2P

A completely new loco will be required I think as I dont think we can get permissions for a reskin.

It was a very widespread engine from Templecombe to Stranraer. There were over 50 of them allocated to Scotland in 1959 so it was only fair that there would be a member of the class represented and 41167 is the only one available to us.

I hope someone can take up the challenge of building a new one or two

Mick

[steamnut44]

Thank you for your commenst Ged. As Mick has already said, I have used the Compound from the Burton Derby Route. I like these loco's and as we havent actually got one for the SCP pack, I just thought I would use this one for the video. The texture is not brilliant on this loco and the quality drops quite considerably when you do a video. Even the route textures look a bit blurry, but this is because the videos come out at a lower quality and don't show up as clear as it does when actually running MSTS. Anyway, at least it gives a taster of what to expect from this route. Well, I must crack on with adding more scenery, there is still quite a lot to do and there are some places that are done, but need a little bit more life adding to, such as Grangemouth Docks etc, as it looks a bit bare. Have another look at the video I did of it and you will see what I mean. In fact I'll do that bit now, before I forget.

Geoff

[steamnut44]

SCOTTISH CENTRAL PLUS Part 6
Shunting at Grangemouth Docks

After the last video I made of Grangemouth Docks showing the WD Loco North British, with an uncorrect consist, you will have noticed that the dockyard itself was a bit void of some dockside scenery. As you will see in this video, I have now completed this area, by populating the docks with various items of scenery, including a nice animated travelling crane which forms a centre piece to the scene. Hope you enjoy this video which definately will be the last one before Christmas. I was just going to post a few screen shots, but you might as well see the whole short activity I made to capture this video.
There are quite a few more industrial areas, which need some more scenery adding and I will be doing these within the next few months.

Geoff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D8EfEX7fUQ