Had a few spare minutes

buffy500 · Post by **buffy500** » Sat Oct 26, 2002 7:35 pm

Had a few minutes free, so just had a little play...

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danielwilkieuk · Post by **danielwilkieuk** » Sat Oct 26, 2002 7:45 pm

is it a bird?
is it a plane?
is it a train?
No its a Virgin Train!!!

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Sat Oct 26, 2002 10:36 pm

updated version? cooooool

Things only get better.

now where did that 'premium account expirey email go', must update it.

Another job well done.

tigermon · Post by **tigermon** » Sat Oct 26, 2002 11:13 pm

Aint it cute, like a little puppy.

But i still think that HST's belong on high speed cross country serviuces.

Not four or five car DEMU's and Nine car EMUs.

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 8:17 am

Well that is true. A four coach train running from southampton to aberdeen is simply rediculous. The problems Virgin are having with train overcrowding is thru the roof. Though i doubt they are doing anything about it. Cant they add another carriage? or string 2 together?

Kempstem · Post by **Kempstem** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 8:22 am

Did you know Virgin are put there HST fleet down to 5 coaches as well!!! Thats just asking for trouble!!

Stooopidperson · Post by **Stooopidperson** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 8:40 am

Kempstem wrote:Did you know Virgin are put there HST fleet down to 5 coaches as well!!!

That is the Challenger Class 255.

Kempstem · Post by **Kempstem** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 9:38 am

It isn't as the number on the side of the train says 43

Stooopidperson · Post by **Stooopidperson** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 9:44 am

The 255 also have 43 on the side.
http://www.therailwaycentre.com/Recogni ... U_255.html

Kempstem · Post by **Kempstem** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 10:06 am

But they are not in them colours + in the rail mag this month it also showned HST with 5 coaches

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 3:04 pm

what is the point? same number of people but smaller trains, how does that work?

asalmon · Post by **asalmon** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 3:20 pm

Stooopidperson wrote:The 255 also have 43 on the side.
http://www.therailwaycentre.com/Recogni ... U_255.html

What on earth does it mean?

The 2+5 sets will be formed PC+TF+TRSB+TS+TS+TGS+PC.

I take it PC is power car, then first, buffet, second, second, second and guard, power car? What exactly do the initials mean?

Also why are they calling it a DMU - because there's two power cars? I always thought with DMUs each car was powered.

-Alan

DrkAngel · Post by **DrkAngel** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:04 pm

They are DEMU's by original design,

class 252 was the prototype set
class 253 and 254 are the production sets, 253 western region, 254 eastern region.

set numbers were removed as they never stayed in the same formation for very long, I have an old pic with 2 253022 sets next to eachother

37714 · Post by **37714** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:06 pm

Kempstem wrote:But they are not in them colours + in the rail mag this month it also showned HST with 5 coaches

There are no major differences between '225's and '125's other than the number of coaches. Both are Class 43's, the 225 is just a way of recognising the difference between the two.

225's are called challengers or something similarly stupid, are they not?

markw · Post by **markw** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 10:54 pm

Actually, HST's are not DMU's. They are diesels, but they don't operate in multiple, althought they operate largely as units. DMU's are generally accepted to be units of powered and/or trailer coaches that can be coupled together to form longer trains driven from one cab. Therefore, the Blue Pullman (except the rebuilt six car units), and the HST which are not designed to couple together and operate as single trains cannot be seen as DMU's but Diesel Unit trains.

Pedentry, perhaps but important in a historical context.