225 in the snow

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225 in the snow

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Hi
If the weather gets bad on the ECML, they can remove the loco from the A end and attatch it to the B end and run at reduced speed.























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Loco and stock is Tims superb 225 in IC livery.

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Very nice.
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nice stuff first ive seen that sort of consist, nice IC stock what pack did they come with, and since when did Tim do an ICS 91?
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Hi
Thanks.
These will be Tims next generous gift to the community. :P .........Thanks Tim.

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Hello Jon
Outstanding. Both shots and Tim's stuff. He really is good with boxes on wheels.


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jbilton wrote:Hi
Thanks.
These will be Tims next generous gift to the community. :P .........Thanks Tim.

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Ah that'll be why then, great stuff Tim, again nice shots
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Unusual consist. Nice screenshots. Lovely models.
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Thanks.......... well I understand the formation is one for bad weather...........how often (if ever) it is used I don't know.
I did post some early shots of the clean IC 225s last year, but Tim has out done himself with the fine weathering .......they look superb..IMO.
Not sure when they'll be uploaded, Tim's up to his eyeballs, and they've got to go for BETA testing first.
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Should be pretty soon, I have the 89's done and will have the upgrade to those up here pretty quick, and the 225 will follow shortly after.

New passenger view for the 225 although the enhanced GNER one is in the folder already for those that downloaded the passenger views, it can be aliased to any GNER MK4 1st saloon.

This 225 should be restricted to renumbers if anyone wants to do paint on it, I'll be putting a GNER version up here at some point but it will be the BATS freeware one and not the Dale Stewart model since people already paid for that one and it would be unfair for me to upload it.

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Tim;

Where do we stand with reskins for these then? Reason i ask is that i did a re-skin of the Dale Stewart Mk4s (using a previous skin which i did a while ago) - Just updated it a bit to do a bit of colour matching in various places as well as adding some graduation down the coach sides. Also did a quick update on the side details (Names / Numbers etc).
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jennings wrote:Tim;

Where do we stand with reskins for these then? Reason i ask is that i did a re-skin of the Dale Stewart Mk4s (using a previous skin which i did a while ago) - Just updated it a bit to do a bit of colour matching in various places as well as adding some graduation down the coach sides. Also did a quick update on the side details (Names / Numbers etc).
Tim,

Adding to this, may I ask what the situation is with reskins of the EH2 pack? I'm just wondering, seeing as it was to be commercial but in the end is freeware (?).

Jon,

Great shots, as ever. I was wondering if you knew what the advantage would be using a 91 on the end instead of the DVT as usual? Does the 'blunt' end have better visibility, or is it due to better traction or something?

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I thought it was to prevent snow blowing over the loco / DVT as the main cabs were designed to be aerodynamic and hence there is a chance that the snow could just build up on the cab front and cause very poor driver visibilty when running at high speed. Using the blunt end leading would in theory reduce this problem as the snow will just blow around the side of the loco and not cause any build up on the cab windows ... Its probably not far off from the reason (If there is indeed one).
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jennings wrote:I thought it was to prevent snow blowing over the loco / DVT as the main cabs were designed to be aerodynamic and hence there is a chance that the snow could just build up on the cab front and cause very poor driver visibilty when running at high speed. Using the blunt end leading would in theory reduce this problem as the snow will just blow around the side of the loco and not cause any build up on the cab windows ... Its probably not far off from the reason (If there is indeed one).
That sounds very logdical......... the answer I've got is

"There is also the Blunt end problem. If there is heavy snow then the there is a risk when the engine is pushing the train that the light DVT could be derailed if it were to hit a pile of snow. So when snow is around the engine may run around to the back of the train and pull it. However unlike other engines the cab is not slanted at both ends, at one end the cab is blunt. Because of poor aerodynamics when leading with the blunt end the train is limited to only 100mph (160km/h), which means delays. This is one disadvantage of a high speed train that doesn't have a power car at both ends."

http://www.o-keating.com/hsr/ic225.htm

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I'll be releasing a "grey pack" which will contain the source textures for the EH2 models, these will be pre shaded with instructions on reskinning, this takes time but will be well worth it when you see your results!

The 225, you'll be bale to reskin this, I don't want reskins of this model in GNER for release since the BATS freeware one is coming and is a different model, you can do new numbers/Names on the IC and GNER Models, I will firmly not allow reskins of the Dale Stewart Memorial download from MT since its also a different model to the Freeware one.

Hope this helps, I am not being protective but the Grey packs will be of enormous benefit to the reskinners in that they will be able to produce the same results as me when painting the loco's and then they'll all look the same when together.

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Thanks Tim for clearing that up - Will keep what i did on the Dale Stewart Mk4s then as just a personnal project.
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