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trainmad wrote:And how often did they reach 126?
Only once...but Papyrus only did 108 once...it's all relative. The point is, the non-streamlined A3s could never hope of reaching 120mph, while the A4s could.
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4468 only got to 126 because they where aiming to push her to that...they never did any 'speed runs' on A3s. Grab any King/A3/Duchess and give it the same challenge, and I assure you it'd have a bloody good bash at it!

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Actually, Papyrus's run was aimed as a record attempt...AFAIK it remains the highest speed ever achieved by a non-streamlined steam locomotive.
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MuzTrem wrote: Never thought I'd see you standing up for Scotsman baggy! :o
What you tryin to say!?

Scotsman's a Great British steam loco, and I don't care who they work for, whether it's the LMS, LNER, SR or GWR, they're still the best steamers in the world!
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chrisiveson wrote:

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That's nice Chris. Is it on T-S.com?

You can just feel the power in those 4 cylinders, the width of the engine frame looks too narrow to really hold them all on doesn't it?

P.S. I still think all US steam engines are hideously ugly, but their beauty is in that ugliness. Some UK steam engines just look 'poofy' by comparison... :)

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Hello Martin,
Yes it's on TS.com, 2 files about 22meg. total.
High detail and custom sounds.
A search for PRR and look for decapod1 and decapod2 will find it.
Part of the readme:

[quote]Back in the fall of 2004 Jim Shubsda contacted me and asked if I would create a replacement model for the original I-1SA created by Broadway Limited Locomotive Works. Jim’s a smooth talker and talked me into giving it a try. Here is the results of my cooperative endeavor with Brodway Limited Locomotive Works.

INSTALLATION IS THE SAME AS FOR PART 1:

If you installed Train Simulator into it’s default location simply unzip the contents of this file into your Train Simulator directory ( C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\) making sure that “Use Folder Namesâ€
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Post by mattvince »

I think that beast is only a 2-cylinder - IIRC, out of the 'simple' engines, only Lima? played around with Gresley's 3-cylinder arrangement, the rest just stuck to 2-cylinders. The huge 'cylinders' are air-brake reservoirs. If you wanted more than two cylinders - then Alco/Baldwin/Lima would gladly sell you a Mallet. Not that any of that made any much difference - it'd still only pull as much as the old locos, just look 'prettier' doing it. It's the principle of Superpower - which was soundly ripped apart by an article in a magazine last year.

Going back to streamlining - there were a few notional figments of the imagination at the latter end of the 19th Century, but it was mainly the Paris-Lyon-Marseille (PLM) which brought the idea to practical use, due to their circumstances mentioned above. Streamlining of the 1930s form took a slightly different approach, being inspired by the racing cars and aeroplanes of the 1920s/1930s - but it still worked on the same principles. And the whole thing was partly a publicity stunt, to gather interest, rather than being of practical use. That's not to belittle streamlining, even at lower speeds, you still benefit through lower fuel consumption - hence lower costs. Flash forward to the present, and it's all about compromises between aerodynamic efficiency and other design factors - mainly to get to the point which additional streamlining delivers no more benefit in normal operation. That said, even modern trains get streamlining wrong - Adelante units will keep time with one engine out, whereas Voyagers can't: the front (and back) ends are most revealing in this respect.
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chrisiveson wrote:Hello Martin,
Yes it's on TS.com, 2 files about 22meg. total.
High detail and custom sounds.
A search for PRR and look for decapod1 and decapod2 will find it.
Cheers! Heading on over there now...

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