oooooooooh i dont know about that my heart is with the merchants (canadian pacific and port line) but the standard 4's are one of my other favourite locos (it is the best standard 4 in preservation though)
I partly agree with you Chris, but I personally like that green livery, but would prefer that it never gets applied to 80098 or 80080. My favoutrite 'tanky' is 80098, such a reliable performer.