It's a basic derail question I know

[nandrews]

Running the Short route from Washington with the Accela
I get derailed just a couple of minutes out, every time, even if I creep away at 20mph tho' the limit is 40!
I am sure I met this before, but I am only just getting back to MS TS

Thanks
Nigel

[Lad491]

The only way ive managed to get a derailment is by going flat out and taking the second bend (i think) at 100mph where the limit is 40mph, with derailments turned on Driving at line speeds or slower and it runs fine. Have you changed the default stock at all?

[nandrews]

Not at all - I just installed it and ran it. I have seen this before (previous PC) and was told why and how to get around it, but I cannot remember now what the tip was!

Nigel
I ran the 'free run' route completely in the other direction (into Washington) with no problem.

[Lad491]

How strange. Ive run it almost a dozen times now at different speeds and never get a derailment. Weird how msts runs differently on different computers. Maybe someone else will have a bright idea.

Sorry I cant help more

[GaryG]

Hi

Are you certain your train is the one derailing? It could be an AI train or perhaps even a static consist that's positioned near an end of track. Modified couplers can change the length of a car (train) thus positioning it too close to the end and running off, creating the derailed message.

It could even be modified braking parameters allowing a stopped train to run off the end before the brakes actually set up if the train is located on a grade.

GaryG

[nandrews]

GaryG,

Thanks, but as I say I have changed nothing. Just installed (on new PC) and run it.
So whatever is there is bog standard.
It is the basic 'short run' from Washington using the Accela and it tells me the activity has ended because the train has derailed. I ran it close to the 40 limit first time then crept out at 20 next time, but still it derailed.

I remember someone telling me how to fix the same problem with an earlier install. I vaguely remember it had to do with something that happens way before the derail message, maybe as I pull out of the station, but I am doing that gently enough. Maybe I will try to set off without any delay and then with a substantial delay.
This is all very basic and I shouldn't be having such problems right at the start!

Nigel

[richard222]

travel at say 5mph along the route and see if the crash happens at the same TIME or the same PLACE before doing the above. If its the time, try opening Activity editor and removing the AI traffic file, then test the activity again at any speed. If it's the first - sorry I can't help!

Richard

[Easilyconfused]

It is a known issue with the default activities as Laurie indicated. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/299728/en-us for an explanation.

[nandrews]

Thanks John,

I think I rediscovered the answer about the same time you posted your reply!

I set off straight away and no derailment.

There is an AI train which comes into the departure station soon after the activity starts. I guess it is that which is creating a derail situtation (tho' I can't think why) and getting away quickly means avoiding that incoming.

Thanks all

Nigel

[Lad491]

Northeast Corridor Short Passenger Run
• When you start the Short Passenger Run on the Northeast Corridor, your train unexpectedly derails 2 minutes to 3 minutes into the activity. To workaround this issue, immediately after the activity begins increase to full throttle and hold your speed.

Now thats interesting. I hadnt actually seen that advice before.
Im guessing then that a piece of AI will collide with you if you dont make a sharp getaway.
There is an incoming AI train shorlty after departure and it sounds like there is a routing conflict - maybe one of the crossovers isnt protected.

I do get going as soon as I close the F11 briefing window, and apply 50% power increasing quite quickly to 75% power until line speed is reached. Maybe that gets me clear in time