London South Coast/East Coast and Great Eastern

[JunGRail]

Hi, not a complaint about these routes, but whats with the over loud horn sound as the AI trains depart the stations, especially the stopper service AI, its not annoying but that doesn't happen that often in real life unless there was a situation that needed the guards attention.

Anyway i was just wondering whats the need for it.

[Lad491]

The 377's and 375's did sound their horns on departing stations, until a year or so ago when the volume of complaints about people being woken at unreasonable times led to a decision to stop it. I live about 3 miles from my local station and I could clearly hear the 377's departing.

So it wasnt so unrealistic at about the time the model was created.

[Backfoot2002]

Im sure this was introduced when I isntalled London Brighton Express. I am sure MSTS didnt used to do this before. Now on all routes if AI is departing a station the horn sounds.

[jtiffin]

That is not good.

[Easilyconfused]

Thinking about this - I am sure that I had the same results on some of the activities on the Bristol - Swansea route - AI trains that departed blew their horn as they left. I don't have a full MSTS installation on my new Vista laptop at work but I will download some stock over the next few days and see what I can discover.

[buffy500]

I'm not sure any single change would effect multiple routes, sure its not just the same stock on different routes.

[johnmnstl]

Its not a new feature of the recent BIN Patches is it ???

[Anonymizeruk]

I'm not sure any single change would effect multiple routes, sure its not just the same stock on different routes.

Yep - the command to toot when departing is part of the stocks SMS file, so it's nothing to do with the route.

It's easy enough to remove this, but I'm not going to risk upsetting anyone by telling folk how to modify a commercial developers SMS file, so if you do want to remove this, contact thier support people.

Cheers

Gaz

[JunGRail]

Thanks for the messages, it's a bit much at times especially if you play it at night or if in headphones - you can forget if you have it too loud lol.

I see, from the first reply that around that time yes it must be true, i have no experience really with BR but i've only known such in real life if a train is at a station longer than it should be, if there is a problem.

I wouldn't trouble to remove it, incase it messes up MSTS, it's showing it's age on my machine.

[JunGRail]

Oh one more issue that slipped me... i was driving the activity from walton to liverpool st in great eastern and as i got past romford. A train suddendly appeared and the game came up with that tedious dont send messages.

Also at liverpool street for the liv to shenfield act. the class 313 that came in to the station next to me instead of staying in the station platform it just disappeared into thin air, and then the train leaving with me on the far side of the platform disappears after passing a few stations after stratford. i understand that the game reloads the AI to pass en-route but that was just weird lol

Has that happened to anyone on here?

[Anonymizeruk]

The issue of AI trains disappearing is usually just down to timing and how the activity is written. Once an AI train reaches its destination, MSTS will get remove it.

I haven't used Great Eastern much (I really must - it's an excellent route) so I'm not sure if anything was altered in a patch.

Cheers

Gaz

[JunGRail]

The patches add the remaining extensions, all the info is on Making tracks, i didn't know that about the AI i thought it was that added realism and they would end up somewhere.

It is a good route just wanted to know those little bits, - one thing you gotta be careful when moving off from witham coming from braintree - any slight roll back can cause the down train to slam into you

[ashgray]

That can happen on many acts, irrespective of the route - by rolling back, you're effectively giving the AI service the path intended for you.

Ash

[JunGRail]

That can happen on many acts, irrespective of the route - by rolling back, you're effectively giving the AI service the path intended for you.

Ash

Agreed, any slight roll back when moving off can set it off - it's avoided now