Activity Editor Crashes

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Activity Editor Crashes

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Hi

When i load activity editor and go into edit a activity, when i click file then open it crashes as says its not responding. I am on vista but ive read online all the problems with vista on msts and this is not one of them.

Can anyone help me on this

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Re: Activity Editor Crashes

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i had a similiar problem recently only with XP. Can you open one of the default routes? If yes open any activity and turn off all siding names etc from view. That worked for me.
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Hi jay and welcome to the Forum,

Have you checked your Graphics screen resolution is set to 1024x768 and your Graphics card is set to 16 bit before running AE.

If not it will crash, as most computer will only run AE in this format. :(

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The other thing that will affect it is the number of routes you have. Are you running trainstore? If so make sure you store everything else and as many of the activities for the route as well, this will speed up loading times. The not responding error is false and doesnt mean the program has crashed, it usually means the program is still loading data. On large routes, without trainstore, it can take up to 20 minutes to load an activity or start a new one.
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I have changed the resolution and made it to 16 bit but its still crashing, could it be something to do with my pc as word not always but sometimes does the same thing.

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sorry to bump this uo, I'm having the same problem

*DELETED* managed to store activities/routes.

Ok so I've done that, an mine is still crashing :S

I have only the player and tracks in sight, no platforms, names, signals in sight, and it still whinges :(
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Hello Jay,
I have changed the resolution and made it to 16 bit but its still crashing, could it be something to do with my pc as word not always but sometimes does the same thing.
Did you ensure that your Graphics screen resolution is set to 1024x768?

How many Routes have you installed, are you using Train Store as Laurie asked?

You say you are running Vista, are you running AE as Administrator?

tubemad, have you checked you are running with your Graphics screen resolution is set to 1024x768 and at 16 bit?
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I too am having the same problem with activity editor. Ive tried all the ideas see so far but it still wont work. i am now running in 1024x768 mode with 16bit colour. for some reason this morning east coast express has also decided that it dont want to work, every time i try to create a new activity it crashes, wont even let me see the route map! Mid east uk will run fine. any ideas??? is it that this program is getting old and that new computers are to good for it???
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Hi

Most times a "loading" crash in MSTS and/or the editor is caused by equipment you've added to MSTS since the last time the program started successfully. Some errors in an .eng or .wag file can cause this and the easiest way to find these is by using a process of elimination by moving them out of your trainset directory until the crash stops. RouteRiter might be able to find the cause. Of course, this just isolates the cause, the fix could open another can of worms.

The only 'preventative' I can think of is to always test the Editor and the game itself after adding each new piece of equipment, route or activity to see if all is still ok. A real PITA and won't get done.

I've only seen the 32bit vs 16bit crash show up when scrolling a zoomed Activity Editor map. I've never seen any other "Editor" problem caused by using a 32bit screen.

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The other thing, has it actually crashed or is windows merely telling you that it has stopped responding? Big routes will take a long time to load, even longer if you dont have and use trainstore. Windows sends out a kind of staying alive signal to the application which, if its too busy trying to load, wont reply. This then makes windows think the program has crashed, when in fact its fine and still loading.

So you will need to be patient and give things plenty of time to load. Resist the urge to click anywhere whilst its loading. Give it at least 5 minutes if you are using trainstore. Without trainstore the editor take 25 minutes to work when i run Thames Mersey :( but it hasnt crashed. Open a default route and try turning off as many of the view settings as you can live without. Once the route has loaded you can turn some back on again.
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I have kind of found the problem with the east coast express software, i had just installed london to brighton on m y system, i took meastcoast express off and re installed and it seems to work ok. The crashes i do still to be getting are when either i ask activity editor to compute and save or edit the time table of a service i have created. every time i do this i get the system not responding error. ssems a little strange to me, im sure im missing something but not sure where to look.

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compute and save
You shouldnt use this function. It can mess up activities and if used in freight activities, will give you lots of errors in the evaluation at the end. Its not necessary to use it at all since all it does is to create an .asv file which isnt actually needed at all.
edit the time table of a service i have created
If you use compute and save it will mess up your carefully constructed timetable. If the path has reverse points which the editor cant figure out, that will also cause a crash. I would suggest never using the timetable compute function and, as i said above, never use compute and save.
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