Running on Vista?

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Running on Vista?

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How many folks out there are running MSTS on Vista with good results?

I installed MSTS today on my new machine and am only getting from between 1 and 13 FPS on Great Eastern, even with all settings on low, AA/AF Off and a resoulution of 1024x768. (have tried latest drivers too)

On my old XP machine I was getting anywhere from 40 to 59 FPS on GE with 2xAF 4xAA and resoulution at 1600x1200.

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Core 2 Extreme @ 2.8Ghz
4GB RAM
Windows Vista 32bit Home Premium
Dual 256Mb Geforce 8800M GTX

Old Specs ...in my Sig,

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Dan

I'm running a Quad Core 2.4Ghz with an Nvidia 8600GT 3 Gb Ram and Vista Home Premium and touch wood (Violently hitting table), I've had absolutley no problems at all. As for fps speeds I've only had a slight improvment on my old pc which was a Dual core Pentium 4 3.2Ghz, 1Gb Ram and a 256Mb ATI 9550, which is light years behind the current set-up. The reason MSTS isn't radically improved with modern gear is that the Software engine for it is ancient (Flight Sim 98????), but It would should be running better than that.

Have you tried the usual uninstall/re-install and re-booting, cleaning out the registry &c???

Have you tried the 174.74 Beta driver from NViDia as this sorted out a lot of probs with KRS and speeded up MSTS by about 10%

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Hi Dan , Are you running as follows,
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... 73&t=66143

It is the only way.

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It installs no problem with no errors. The issue is the really poor frame rates that is making it unplayable.

I take your point that MSTS wont take any sort of advantage of new hardware, however I didn't think it would be this bad. My version is v1.0, would updating make any difference?

Oh and before I go, should have mentioned that both my systems were/are DELL gaming notebooks.
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Hi Dan, Can we have somemore info, ie; Are you using Trainstore.,have you got the Bin Patch installed(if so which one) Is anything else running in the background--internet--Norton--other programes?

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Hi mate,

Its a fresh clean install with nothing yet added other than MT:GE. No anti-virus, firewall or any other CPU intensive software running in the background.

Latest reference driver I have used is 169.09 and that has given a few extra FPS, but no real difference so now back to my stock 167.55 drivers.

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Hi Dan,

I have an Intel Quad Core Q6600 2.4 gHz, overclocked to 3.2 gHz
Nvidia 8800gtx with 768 meg RAM
2 gigs of high speed RAM
Vista Home Premium (SP1)

This gives FPS of around 50-59FPS on virtually all routes, including very densely populated tiles with all sliders at the max.

There is something terribly wrong with your setup if you are gettiing the figures you show.
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Hmm, I really am at a loss then. All my other games (including FSX) run great, its just this one game.
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Dan,

Did you try running with the Beta driver as suggested in Darren's post?

I'm running on Vista 64 (with SP2) with a Core 2 Duo E6600 (overclocked to 3.2 Ghz) and an 8800 GTS 640 Mb video card and had the exact same problem as you, good fps on XP and rubbish ones on Vista.

Tried all the new NVidia drivers as they came out with no difference but a while ago downloaded a Beta set from the NVidia website and hey presto! good fps on Vista.

Just installed the latest beta driver ( 175.16) and good frame rates maintained. May be worth giving the 175.16 driver for Vista 32 a go, you never know.

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Hi Len,

Are those drivers suitable for a Notebook?
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mikesimpson wrote:Hi Dan,

I have an Intel Quad Core Q6600 2.4 gHz, overclocked to 3.2 gHz
Nvidia 8800gtx with 768 meg RAM
2 gigs of high speed RAM
Vista Home Premium (SP1)

This gives FPS of around 50-59FPS on virtually all routes, including very densely populated tiles with all sliders at the max.

There is something terribly wrong with your setup if you are gettiing the figures you show.
Mike

Not wishing to change the subject, but how did you overclock from 2.4 to 3.2? And is the system stable with it running 40% over speed

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Dan,

Apologies, just realised you are running the 8800 (M) GTX laptop cards. Unfortunately, the beta drivers I listed are not shown as being suitable. However, there is a 174.31 driver for your card on the Dell website, not sure if this is suitable since I don't know your model number, but worth investigation?

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Hi Len,

I have just tried those 174.31 drivers from the DELL website, and allthough it gives a slight increase in FPS, it is still not enough to play MSTS even remotely. Looks like I'm gonna have to continue to use my old machine untill I can think of something else.

Maybe a dual boot?

Thanks for everyones help!

Mike, there should be an overclock option in your BIOS settings.
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