Printing money

Goingnorth · Post by **Goingnorth** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 3:40 pm

Yet another pay out for Railtrack bosses...This time becuase they ran the business so badly they thought the'd pay themselves to stop on and try and sort it out...Can you believe that? These people have no shame....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2248630.stm

Mattaf · Post by **Mattaf** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 8:28 pm

There is only one way to discribe a railtrack boss and this is it:

One ring had come into the possesion of Gollum, a slimy creature as dark as darkness, who kept it secret unto himself from the evermost depths of the mines beneath the misty mountains

(J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings)

TylerDurden · Post by **TylerDurden** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 8:48 pm

On the topic of printing money I'm game to have a crack at printing a new Â£5 note to go with my wad of old style ones that are waiting to get spent

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delticbob · Post by **delticbob** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 9:23 pm

Same old problem of the Plebs & the Surfs.... the rich get richer while those that do the graft get shafted.

Bob

CaldRail · Post by **CaldRail** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 10:03 pm

Sadly this appears to be human nature... Despite innumerable coups, rebellions, and revolutions the same situation asserts itself very quickly.

timbooth · Post by **timbooth** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 10:36 pm

Apathy is capitalisms best friend - while people are willing to be shafted, people will be shafted.

(translated from an old chinese proverb)

CaldRail · Post by **CaldRail** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 10:47 pm

I think you need to include communism in that... (Stand by for flame war..

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Fodda · Post by **Fodda** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 11:27 am

Capitalism and communism per se are not necessarily bad things. Greed is the thing that destroys these ideologies... and now that state communism has been blown out of the water, we're seeing the greedy really start going to work.

I'm regularly gobsmacked that companies go into panic mode and start laying off workers when a fall in profit-increae occurs! What does that mean? Well for example... last year the profits were up by 10%, this year they're only up by 5%! For crying out loud... The company's still made more profit than last year, but the bloody shareholders will whinge about their dividends.

It's all greed in the end.

I'll put my soapbox away now shall I?

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 1:03 pm

Makes my blood boil...British society has completely lost it in my view. Greed, crime, stupid court decisions, PC-extremism, US-style compensation attitudes, moral bankruptcy...argh! I can see myself either leaving my clothes on a beach some day and disappearing to start again or quitting my job, selling my house and buying a hut somewhere quiet and staying well out of it.

yourdomingo · Post by **yourdomingo** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 9:37 pm

[quote="Fodda"]I'm regularly gobsmacked that companies go into panic mode and start laying off workers when a fall in profit-increae occurs! What does that mean? Well for example... last year the profits were up by 10%, this year they're only up by 5%! For crying out loud... The company's still made more profit than last year, but the bloody shareholders will whinge about their dividends.[quote]

someone should tell them there's only so many people in the world, and since they're never going to get 100% market...

i'm with saddletank. let's just jump ship. I regularly feel like doing something silly like that, but there's greed everywhere. the only way to get out of this capitalist compensation culture is death. and i'm too young to die.

actually, there are nice people out there. lots of them. it's just none of them want to be politicians, and while we vote with our wallets... Look at denmark. they pay much more, but the country works. No-one needs to take out private medical insurance, cos their NHS works.

I should shut up, cos i don't have a suggestion for a more viable alternative!

a bit off topic there... sorry

johndibben · Post by **johndibben** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 10:07 pm

timbooth wrote:Apathy is capitalisms best friend - while people are willing to be shafted, people will be shafted.

(translated from an old chinese proverb)

A bit of plain speaking and very true

We've turned into a bunch of 'wimps'.

Heaven help us if there was another 'proper' war.

Today has seen whinging, whining at its best .... we embrace capitalism and emperialism and when we get the s****y end of the sick we moan.

We've got a choice .... the US way which has never really known what the consequences of war can mean to their cities and civillians .... or the European way which knows only too well the consequences that occur when you attack anothers' 'sovreign territory'.

I'll go for experience any time.

What's this got to do with railways .... probably more than you think

yourdomingo · Post by **yourdomingo** » Thu Sep 12, 2002 8:33 am

Author Message johndibben wrote:What's this got to do with railways .... probably more than you think

yeah... remember the narrow gauge lines to the front in WW1? well, i don't since i wasn't around in 1918... in fact, i doubt any of us remember WW1...

all i will say is that there is no way i am going to die for this country. maybe if there was something worth saving, but i won't die for the sake of bush's bank balance (am i being cynical, or is his desire to attack iraq, a major oil producing nation (or is it, well the middle east is), in any way linked to his large oil interests in the US. look how the price is going up... that's capitalism in action for you folks! the problem is i don't have any better ideas)

i wrote "none of them, they're all cr@p" on my ballot paper last election.

CaldRail · Post by **CaldRail** » Thu Sep 12, 2002 8:07 pm

So what are you prepared to die for? As Martin Luther King said "Any man who is not prepared to die for something does not deserve to live"

Harsh words. But I understand what he meant.