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crosscountry · Post by **crosscountry** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 12:41 am

wots yer fave?

CaldRail · Post by **CaldRail** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 1:18 am

Ugh! Sorry, but anything after BR Blue just looks garish to me.. No vote.

Goingnorth · Post by **Goingnorth** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 1:32 am

The new Virgin colours - Red/black/silver is a very powerful colour combination and GNERs colours are contemporary, stylish and hide the muck!

Most of the new liveries are fine. The older GW colours (Green etc) I wasn't too keen on and the SWT one is just plain boring.

Heathrow express is cool too.

Anyway I voted Virgin, but I love GNER too, especially the use of typography (sorry art student thing).

TylerDurden · Post by **TylerDurden** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 11:05 am

I would say that the Livery I love and hate is the FirstGW "Barbie" livery,

Weve had to put up with "Barbie Busses" for a while now, but "Barbie Trians"?!. The Train looks better than the bus and I like the bold colours, but its not the sort of thing that fits in to the scenery.

The best Livery is probably the New Metro/Arriva, Its bold but stylish, with a good choice of colours.

basildd · Post by **basildd** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 11:06 am

I actually think the SWT livery (as carried by 159/170 and 442s is very stylish. My favourite is the WAGN livery as applied to 317/6's...

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 11:17 am

I agree with Caldrail - to prove the point those two pictures look like something a marketing guy at Hornby has dreamed up. Horrible!

Bring back dark green, or maroon - the proper colours for engines. Best coach livery of all time? LNWR white and lake.

yourdomingo · Post by **yourdomingo** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 11:32 am

well, i have to say that the SWT livery is very nice. the stuff on the wessexes and 159s and 170s and the butt ugly new electric things that spend most of the time in sidings. so that's my vote. SWT.

and the worst post privatisation is anglia. all that shabby green-blue. yuck. the only nice anglia livery is on the 170s.

and the best livery of all time is the swallow intercity one. it looked killer on a HST! and a 91.

buffy500 · Post by **buffy500** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 11:40 am

yourdomingo wrote:well, i have to say that the SWT livery is very nice. the stuff on the wessexes and 159s and 170s and the butt ugly new electric things that spend most of the time in sidings. so that's my vote. SWT.

Butt ugly ? Cheeky b*stard !

I think there are several uglier out there. (180 anyone?) I think they have a certain charm.

I was not impressed with the SWT livery when it appeared on the 442's. but its grown on me now.

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yourdomingo · Post by **yourdomingo** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 11:44 am

ah... appear to have touched a nerve...

i'm just not really taken by their appearance. what's it with that big yellow gap in the middle? was it supposed to be a corridor?

i haven't ever seen a 180, so i don't know how bad they look.

and it really annoys me when i see 6 of them parked in the sidings when i'm on a banger (4vep usually)

incidentally, is there a 442 available for download?

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 1:26 pm

buffy500 wrote:I was not impressed with the SWT livery when it appeared on the 442's. but its grown on me now.

Call that a train livery? Looks more like a vending machine lying on its side. He heee

"What do we want?"
"Smoky filthy smelly old steam trains in various shades of crud!"
"When do we want them?"
"Now!"
etc

Kevo00 · Post by **Kevo00** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 1:45 pm

I like the GNER one with the crests on the sides of the carrages - it actually looks like an express train! Also the EWS one is very nice, especially when carried onto the new wagons.

Talking of Anglia and typefaces - anyone notice the interesting similarity between the present typefacing of the word "Anglia" on the trains, and the typefacing used by Anglia TV in the 1970s?

buffy500 · Post by **buffy500** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:40 pm

yourdomingo wrote:ah... appear to have touched a nerve...

i'm just not really taken by their appearance. what's it with that big yellow gap in the middle? was it supposed to be a corridor?

i haven't ever seen a 180, so i don't know how bad they look.

and it really annoys me when i see 6 of them parked in the sidings when i'm on a banger (4vep usually)

incidentally, is there a 442 available for download?

No, no nerve touching going on here, I would agre that they are 'distinctive', but I think ugliest train award goes to Gatwick Express!

The 458's have had a hard time getting accepted into the fleet, and know what you mean about sitting in a clunky old Cig and knowing these things are just sat there.

There is a 442, but its currently sat on my hard drive unfinished.

Goingnorth · Post by **Goingnorth** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:43 pm

Yes, Kev. Very perceptive. I was looking at liveries the other day (just for the fun of it) and I noticed that the Anglia typeface is similar to the one used by the TV company - probably not remembered by anyone under 23. In those days in was none of your CGI, just a rotating horse and knight thingy on a plinth with naff music! Would look silly now, compared to today’s computer graphics stuff and motion graphics sequences. Most of which are done on desktop PCs/Macs.

I think the first the use of computer graphics was by ATV on their ident - not the colour rings - that was animation on 35mm film - but the rest of it. They bought to system from the states and didn't get much change out of Â£1/2 million - it was very basic with just 16 colours!!! All the other stations used traditional animation - until channel Four in 1982, when that started. I remember that, I think the first program was 'Countdown'.

In the good old days of the late 1970s/Early 1980s we had to put up with things.....even the dee-kay train driver simulations looked cool! They were text only!

Someone will post in a minute saying when they got colour TV - now I'm not *that* old....

basildd · Post by **basildd** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:46 pm

I remember when we first got a colour TV - the first in our street. My dad let me have my mates round to watch it (and show off I suspect) and we watched a football match - Nottingham Forest in bright Orange playing Newcastle Utd in bizarre stripes that moved, on a field of lime green!

basildd · Post by **basildd** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:48 pm

Kevo00 wrote: Talking of Anglia and typefaces - anyone notice the interesting similarity between the present typefacing of the word "Anglia" on the trains, and the typefacing used by Anglia TV in the 1970s?

There was one on a Peterborough train last week and the driver was dressed in a suit of armour and the conductor announced it was 19.00 from Norwich and said it was the quiz of the week... was he talking gibberish?

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