Guess the loco!

Goingnorth · Post by **Goingnorth** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 1:20 am

Built in 1968, diesel powered and had a top speed of 125 mph...yep 125mph. It had a 4000hp output! British built by Brush, only one made. What was it? And what happened to this remarkable loco?

basildd · Post by **basildd** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 3:33 am

Ended up in some unpronouncable Ruskie scrapyard.......

jasonclarke · Post by **jasonclarke** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 7:24 am

.....and should be uploaded in about two weeks!!!!

Jason

Post by **martinhodgson** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 9:38 am

The prototype HST, currently in the National Railway Museum in York???

ianm42 · Post by **ianm42** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 10:58 am

Nope, BR did not actually need 4,000hp, so all subsequent locos have been lower power than the big K.

Goingnorth · Post by **Goingnorth** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 11:32 am

Okay, it was HS4000 for those that didn't know!

http://www.sulzertwo.com/HS4000.html

Here's a picture. Pretty looking beast, unfortunately she was sold to the Russians!

basildd · Post by **basildd** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 1:31 pm

Wot no prize for guessing correctly?

Goingnorth · Post by **Goingnorth** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 2:20 pm

Errr No.

Nice loco though

basildd · Post by **basildd** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 3:33 pm

goingnorth wrote:Errr No.

Nice loco though

On a par with Falcon and Lion!

(The prototype not the log!)

TylerDurden · Post by **TylerDurden** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 4:21 pm

If this machine was so great why did we sell it to the Russians?

Goingnorth · Post by **Goingnorth** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 5:14 pm

Try not to laugh....cos it was too heavy! It weighed in at 133 tons, so the track couldn't take it in this country (we have very light rail) at 125mph. So they didn't want to develop it anymore and flogged it to the Ruskkies. Another Great British export...bit like the HST and APT!

The exact history I'm not aware, mainly because I wasn't around at the time, maybe someone would fill in the details...

johndibben · Post by **johndibben** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 6:40 pm

I thought it was one of those questions at the end of a 'telly' programme:

Who's hosts 'Blind Date'

A) Cilla Black

B) Black Beauty

C) Michael Greenhill

Does GN work for BT?

Goingnorth · Post by **Goingnorth** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 6:56 pm

johndibben wrote: Does GN work for BT?

BR once...Does that count? they were just as bloody useless!

Nothing to do with me working for them course....

Calls are not charged at 50p a minute.....or is it Â£1 these days?

crepello · Post by **crepello** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 10:10 pm

What do the Class 67 and Kestrel have in common? Both 'designed' for 125mph running, but, whoops - the axle load is too high so, erm, it can't run at 125mph...

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Fri Aug 16, 2002 12:16 am

yes Kestral was 133 tonnes it was also said that on a trial run Kestral was summond to move a train the length of Crewe Basford hall yard to Wembley old yard. It did so well it never needed sand and the whole journey was complete with the loco only having to apply 40% throttle to gain maximum speed. However back to its weight, Its rumoured that it derailed in the yard 3 weeks after so they put it up for sale russian portugal and spain making offers Russia winning. Kestral was used right up to the late 80s early 90s when it suffered mechanical problems and its weight actually started to take its toll on the lines it was used on. Also heard that they actually kept kestral sparkling and gleaming whilst stored until the fate of the cutters tourch not long after. RIP Kestral