Dorset Coast - Nuclear flask activity.

widdicombe · Post by **widdicombe** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:34 pm

I've just been driving the Nuclear Flask actvity for Dorset Coast.
After sorting the brakes out (it was rather alarming to find I had no brakes with such a hazardous load!) a couple of thoughts struck me...

Firstly is there a limit on the top speed of these trains?

Secondly, are there any other restrictions on them such as stopping in station platforms or built-up areas?

Cheers, Dave

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:36 pm

Nuclear trains are in DRS class 6 service's 50 - 60mph

in BR days with the Barrier wagon it could be anthing from 45 - 60 mph ie class 6 or 7.

Website · Post by **Easilyconfused** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:29 pm

OK - I just edited the title of this thread. The reason for this is the fact that Google and other search engines regularly index the forums.

Try entering Nuclear site:uktrainsim.com into http://www.google.com on the advanced search page and you will get 157 results. Now guests can browse the forums without actually having an account. Using certain words like disaster in the same phrase as nuclear can draw all sorts of searches into the forums.

Want to try it ? Just hit the "log out" link at the top right of the forum screen. Then enter the search results into google and you will get a list of posts. When you click on one you will be in "read only" mode as would any google vistor but you can read the words of wisdom that our members have posted.

So the bottom line is that anything you write on this site can be recycled by google and other search engines. Please think before you post since it will probably be preserved for posterity somewhere in some web archive.

Kindest regards

John

250787 · Post by **250787** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:37 pm

Cant guests read the forum anyway?

widdicombe · Post by **widdicombe** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:54 pm

Thanks for your interesting post, John.

With hindsight I see the title I used was perhaps ill advised, but I intended it to be light hearted.

I will indeed bear I mind what I post in the light of your information.

All the best, Dave

Website · Post by **Easilyconfused** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:58 pm

Yes - guests can read the forum. However, people with an anti-nuclear axe to grind would be unlikely to visit a trainsim forum unless they were also interested in train simulation.

A student or journalist using google to search for the phrase containing both nuclear and disaster will result in lots of links to the Kursk and other known nuclear mishaps. What we do not need is google pointing to activities on Dorset Coast regardless of how real to life those activities are.

This might seem overly paranoid but over the last few weeks I have been using google a lot and it is surprising how near the top of the list of results some of our forum posts get. Not necessarily page 1 but pages 2 or 3.

Can you imagine the tabloid press getting the mistaken idea that the Dorset Coast activities are totally true to life and could prove useful to terrorists. Again - you think I am joking - take a look at the last page of the London South Coast manual.

Click the image to zoom in

No critisism of the original poster is intended - just a "heads-up" to members to think about what they write.

I was surprised when I searched a little deeper on google and found some very intemperate remarks I had posted hear in my early days had been preserved for posterity and are still available even though I had subsequently edited the posts on the forums. The old archives are still there if you look hard enough.

Kindest regards

John

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:02 pm

Guest's read the post's anyway, anyone can and could read the post's since the site was put up. you only need UKtrainsim Forums and everythings there. Political back stabbing, Smug joke's about the PM. If anyone was that sensetive Matt NeutroIC would have been in trouble years ago.

With the Political Farse we live in now i wouldnt be too suprised if we were banned from using the word Nuclear or Chemicals for fear of attracting Terrorist's.

Goes to show Political correctness does corrupt us somtime's.

Tonysmedley · Post by **Tonysmedley** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:03 pm

Guests can read the forums if they wish to; but as I foumd out to my surprise, when you Google for something related to trains, you may well find a reference to a UKTrainsim forum with a link which connects you to the site. Thus I found my name quoted in a Google search. I had not appreciated that what I had posted could be available to unkown thousands of people if they wanted to see it.
Tony

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:07 pm

Tonysmedley wrote: I had not appreciated that what I had posted could be available to unkown thousands

Try Unknown Millions.

John thats just mediocre Propaganda saying Stick it you lot we will lay the route how we want if it aint your cuppa then whistle. If they were told to dumb down the track layout MT's Great Eastern wouldnt look so great.

Website · Post by **Easilyconfused** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:17 pm

Thanks Tony - I think that illustrates my point very well.

I understand what Salopiangrowler is saying but I don't want to labour the point. Just go out there and play with google.

Then put yourself in the position of a rabid anti-nuclear person and see that a fictional activity (I don't think there are any nuclear power stations in the Dorset Coast area - although I stand to be corrected) with rolling stock that may or may not be totally prototypical can be regurgitated as "fact" by google and get headline news tomorrow morning when the Breakfast TV has nothing better to talk about.

I think this is a lose-lose situation for me as a moderator. I raised a point that was accepted by the original poster and now I can see I will get drawn into a long debate. Well that is not going to happen. You will notice that apart from the first post with the moderator avatar (to explain why the thread title had changed) I have been posting without the moderator avatar since these are my own views. I have had my say and respect the rights of others to have theirs. I will not necessarily respond to those posts unless I have something to add.

Kindest regards

John

ianmacmillan · Post by **ianmacmillan** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:20 pm

I've just googled ianmacmillan and the first page is full of my posts.
Also contains the email button in my profile for the spammers to find.

Surprisingly Ian Macmillan also has me of the first page.

I'm not sure if I like the idea of Google fame.

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:29 pm

Results 1 - 10 of about 2,730 for Salopiangrowler.

i aint bothered.

I aint bothered about the last 2 either of the 2,730.

carlwestwood · Post by **carlwestwood** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:42 pm

Results 1 - 11 of about 1,880 for carlwestwood. (0.21 seconds) for carlwestwood

Results 1 - 100 of about 1,230,000 for carl westwood. (0.15 seconds) for Carl Westwood

Carl

jetgriff · Post by **jetgriff** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:03 am

When I was a train guard stationed at Weymouth we did the flask run (1976-85) from Winfrith to Eastleigh yards.

We would take a light engine class 33 from Weymouth
to Winfrith, shunt the flasks into a train then back to Dorchester, and then right away to Eastleigh.

We were given the details on the day and were told not to discuss times or route with anyone.

Here is a link to a picture I took while in Dorchester yard... dont think its secrete any more!!
http://www.jetsweb.co.nz/d47dorchester.jpg

<img src="http://www.jetsweb.co.nz/d47dorchester.jpg">

Lad491 · Post by **Lad491** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:34 am

John is right about Google. The results are not limited to uktrainsim posts, but if you use the same user name on other forum or web sites, it will catch you there too - as I found out myself recently. Luckily I havent been anywhere naughty, but if you had a quick Google search would reveal those places for all to see, and your posts for all to read.

So be careful next time you are on that dating forum

Atomic Systems

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