London South Coast anyone?

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ronald parkin wrote:Hi Mike , Is it a stand alone route? ( say yes :P )

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Hi Mike , Have pre- ordered with postage £19.46 , what about me nicker
off ???

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bluearrow wrote:
ronald parkin wrote:Hi Mike , Is it a stand alone route? ( say yes :P )

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Ron P :)
Yes :wink:
Hi Ron when you say is it a stand alone route do you mean that you can install it if you dont have Microsoft train sim?
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king125 wrote:
bluearrow wrote:
ronald parkin wrote:Hi Mike , Is it a stand alone route? ( say yes :P )

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Ron P :)
Yes :wink:
Hi Ron when you say is it a stand alone route do you mean that you can install it if you dont have Microsoft train sim?
You will need MSTS :wink:
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Thats what I thought, but the question Ron asked about it being a stand alone I got the impression that he thought you could run it without the sim.

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king125 wrote:Thats what I thought, but the question Ron asked about it being a stand alone I got the impression that he thought you could run it without the sim.

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Agreed Terry, it did read that way, :wink:
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I shall not be buying it for the reasons stated by several other people.Additionally,I shall not buy any other Europeanbahn products because of their attitude to constructive criticism (not just "I think this product sucks")When I first installed L2B I had a nightmare because it screwed up the Tsection files and made it unusable and although the developer knew this they did not bother to tell the unwary purchaser.It was only because I had access to this forum I could sort it.I then made some perfectly reasonable comments about some aspects of the route which could have easily been rectified with a patch and would have improved it.Were the developers happy to have some problems pointed out?No the response was to bar me from their forum.The only way you can have a major bug sorted ( no node at Balcombe Jn-note the spelling EBahn) which allows collisions is to buy the new addon.Finally,they do not provide a ref file for the route so the user cannot sort the problem and Route Riter cannot make one for some reason.If I were a route developer I would be pleased to receive constructive criticism about a product so it could be improved.By the way the trackwork and scenery on L2B are lousy.For a comparison download the freeware Cajon Pass route available on TrainSim.com,Wupper 10 (or one of many other continental routes or one of the Aussie routes)All freeware,all superior to L2B.
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king125 wrote:Thats what I thought, but the question Ron asked about it being a stand alone I got the impression that he thought you could run it without the sim.

Terry
Hi Terry
That was my fault as I used that phrase.
What I was replying to Ron, was that you don't need the previous three EB CDs...and if you want you can leave them installed.
Which was his concern.
Sorry if we confused you.
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Post by ronald parkin »

Hi Timenec, I must have reloaded LB1 & 2 about 6 or 7 times now allowing for PC upgrades and such and I have never had any trouble with the the Tsection files being changed by LB2, I have seen other threads on it and always wondered :-?

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Cheers Jon, Did you check out the monitors.

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I have never had any trouble with the the Tsection files being changed by LB2,
Ron - the installation of LBE installs an old version of the tsection.dat file which will overwrite any newer versions installed. If you then subsequently try to run a newer route it will fail. Its not a big deal though, just pop the latest back into the global folder after installing it and everything will be fine :)

Lots of other routes include an installation routine to replace the tsection.dat file with the latest available (at the time the route came out) so it may be that when you did a reinstall, if you installed more than one route a later installation corrected the tsection.dat file :)
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With doing a route that goes from Victoria, through Gatwick Airport, wouldn't it have been sensible for EB to make a Gatwick Express train, either 73 hauled or the EMU?
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i believe there were copyright issues. As you can see on LBE what they started to make in the Gatwick sidings but i dont think Gat Exp allowed EB to have their logo on a commercial add on
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I have knocked EB products in the past because of the low quality, but I think the least that people should do is wait for more detailed screenshots of LSC to be published before they pass comment on the route.

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Post by Damo »

I probably will buy it but I fail to see why they can't include all of the stock and liveries from the original LBE and WCW.
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