I 've had it with nit pickers & rivet counters

[BR7MT]

I am also Disgusted to see that another person is doing his best do discredit Pete's argument & case in another thread which clearly refers to this one

Which thread is that? Can't think of any within the last few days that deals with nit-picking and rivet counters

Regards,

Dan

p.s. I'm not commenting on the activities as I haven't downloaded any of them - I'm more of an 'Explore Route' MSTS player and content creator.

[whobhoy]

I would add & this is my personal opinion is it is not looking like he will change his Mind & this latest bit of Backstabbing or winding up call it what you will has not gone to help matters but inflame them more , I should add the last paragraph is my own honest opinion .

Can i ask what your refering to and whom?

Jon

Jon If you read the thread from Page one you wll get the Full picture mate

[whobhoy]

I am also Disgusted to see that another person is doing his best do discredit Pete's argument & case in another thread which clearly refers to this one

Which thread is that? Can't think of any within the last few days that deals with nit-picking and rivet counters

Regards,

Dan

p.s. I'm not commenting on the activities as I haven't downloaded any of them - I'm more of an 'Explore Route' MSTS player and content creator.

Just check your own watched topics As you have already posted in the thread, in agrement with the snake who penned it I should add

[ccsdc]

Think some buildings were omitted for the frame rate reason and also that it isnt a true to life replica route made with bespoke models. All of the scenery is availible from here or other routes. DC was made for everyone to use the real lines but with some artistic interpretation.

Its a real popular route for the non nit picker, i could too pick to my hearts content as i live and know the southampton to Bournemouth area very well but i dont because i know what effort Dave put into it.

As you said it still creates the right atomosphere even though its not 100% pc

Best wishes
Jon

To answer Barry's earlier comment - Yes, Jon is partially correct - there is the issue of fps, but as stated in the readme for DC the signalling and scenery is fictional, with the track layout based on the September 2002 Quail Plans.

This does not mean that the track is 100% correct nor does it mean that the scenery and signalling are 100% incorrect. It is well known by now that I am not a modeller and have never pretended to be - I use what is available from the download libraries, and with permission of the authors, other routes that have been uploaded, to achieve the closest that I can.

That having been said, one of the problems with creating a present day, long route such as DC is the fact that so many people are actually going to live near the areas that are being modelled, and can compare the MSTS route with what is actually there.

Barry has made his point about the AA headquarters in Basingstoke in a rational and polite manner, so I take no offence and will endeavour to correct this anomoly for the next release. I actively encourage people who know an area better than I to make such comment and I will do my best to fix it - for example Version 4 (or maybe 5) will feature the correct signalling layout between Weymouth & Southampton Central because one of the DC team has that information.

Dave

[thomascairns]

Just to demonstrate that we're working on the signalling...



© Tom Cairns & TomNick 2006

[whobhoy]

What has this Map got to do with the matter in question please stay on topic

[terrycunliffe]

What has this Map got to do with the matter in question please stay on topic

Well, IMO, everything! The thread is about nit-picking, and this is a demonstration from Thomas that work is underway to depict a portion of a route as accurately as possible, thus negating the possibilities of future criticsm.

Or by getting back on topic, are you wishing for a continuation of attempts to keep stirring the vitriol?

Regards,
Terry

[thomascairns]

What has this Map got to do with the matter in question please stay on topic

As Terry said, we're talking about rivit counting and nit-picking. Dave said above that Dorset Coast signalling is largely fictional and at the moment we're working with diagrams to competely re-do the signalling.

[jakbaz]

If you look on the original post it was me that brought up the subject of the BBox,of which i have never encounterd before,yes it did say about it in the readme,but i hadn't a clue what a BBox was.All i said was that on starting the activity i crash into another train,and what am i doing wrong? Also i said that this was not a critism.
I only joined this forum in July so i am a novis as regards a lot of things,so if it was my post that started this all off i can only apoligise from the bottom of my heart.
Baz

[whobhoy]

What has this Map got to do with the matter in question please stay on topic

Well, IMO, everything! The thread is about nit-picking, and this is a demonstration from Thomas that work is underway to depict a portion of a route as accurately as possible, thus negating the possibilities of future criticsm.

Or by getting back on topic, are you wishing for a continuation of attempts to keep stirring the vitriol?

Regards,
Terry

Not at All I wishing to preserve more than half the Irish activity content of the UKTS file base as My main reason for me starting train Simming was Irish enterprise.
And lets face it this is not just straight case of nit picking It goes deeper I refer to The claims about the lack of read me file which I have now disproved by posting same on both this & the original thread .

regards
William King

[thenudehamster]

Seems we're now into nit-picking about how we count the rivets. Peace, gentlemen (and the occasional lady) please.

I hijacked he thread a llittle to illustrate how questions and problems can be misinterpeted. It wasn't meant to get Dave and everyone else stirred up about DC, and I'm pleased the question has been taken in the spirit in which it was intended.

Now if I can persuade MT ro reset the GE route in 1906, I've cracked it

Peter's initial post was valid, within limits, though I feel he could have down a little more in his original documentation to explain the problem and how to rectify it. I'm not making a Federal case out of it and neither, I feel, should anyone else. I just hope Peter calms down enough to think a little less emotionally and a little more rationally about the whole situation, but I do understand where he's coming from, and he has my complete sympathy.

BarryH - thenudehamster

[buffy500]

Now if I can persuade MT ro reset the GE route in 1906, I've cracked it

Not even remotely nearly started to crack it !

[lateagain]

Now if I can persuade MT ro reset the GE route in 1906, I've cracked it

Not even remotely nearly started to crack it !

Barry I reckon there's more chance of Kuju giving everyone on UKTS free copies of an Ad-Free product

What is it you don't like about kettles Dave?

Still I'll content myself with that Class 37 (Great sounds judging by the videos) when I get to install the route sitting on my table right now.

Back on track the post above from the new guy does raise one issue. Aged and long term addicts like the rest of us posting here are all guilty of using initals (RR Route riter, TS Train Store etc.) and easily forget that newcomers might struggle with jargon.

Have we got a forum GLOSSARY? Might be useful to create one in help for beginners if not.

Geoff

[partyspiritz]

god why is we end up with yet more file's being withdrawn. you would of thourt that we would have all leaned a lesson from the last time. now we have people changing the subject.

I can now see why pete's doing this


What with someone else now try to discredit Pete's case in another thread just what is this a coming to.




John

[prairie4566]

Just had a look through this topic...and at Pete's BD2 Activity. 187 people have downloaded Pete, and I'm delighted to see that you've used default stock except the Blue Pullman itself. Should help those wishing to download it and others.

Keep going mate! Don't withdraw all your Activities just because some people criticise...like when I was taking shots regularly!

Take no notice or argue back, that's my opinion. That's what I did when criticism about my shots got too much.