Sorry to return to an old thread of November of last year but I have just spent fruitless hours trying to get Cl156 locos to run without the dreaded 'Cannot create cabview' error. Of course I downloaded file ID 8859 from the library and placed it in the common.cab folder. All my downloaded 156 locos reference common.cab correctly in the .eng file, but MSTS refuses to play ball. I opened up the cl156.cvf file and noted references in it to some non-existent Dash9 files. I tried to fix this but without success. I can only assume that this .cvf file is corrupt, and since no other appears to exist I have had to admit defeat.
Has anyone out there managed to run these locos?
Can anyone run Class 156 locos?
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Have a look at this site.vanstek wrote:I dont know if the cab is correct (never having seen a real 156xxx) but for me it is good enough.
http://members.madasafish.com/~dysgraph ... 56_cab.htm
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cl156.cvf
"This is what you need: "
File ID-8859
Sorry Chris. This is exactly the file that has caused me the headaches I describe. Have you run a loco with this?
Alistair
File ID-8859
Sorry Chris. This is exactly the file that has caused me the headaches I describe. Have you run a loco with this?
Alistair
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Re: cl156.cvf
Well not a loco, it's a "Super Sprinter" DMU, I assume that's what you mean?oldalistair wrote:"This is what you need: "
File ID-8859
Sorry Chris. This is exactly the file that has caused me the headaches I describe. Have you run a loco with this?
Alistair
Chris.
My apologies for stating that the 2000 cab is usable for a 156.
In my trainset I have
UKTS_6048 is a 156420 with common 2000 cab
UKTS_6043 is a Central156 with common 2000 cab but also a possible use of an ArrivaCl156 cab using elements of the Dash9
UKTS_11392 is a Central-exRR156 with the ArrivaCl156 cab
After having seen not only the good set of pictures via the link provided by rtracey, and a look from camera 2 at the front of the models, I have to admit that the 2000 cab is completely wrong, it does not match the small driver cabin besides the inter-unit gangway. The ArrivaCl156 cab is better. The control panel and the small window matches the real thing, but for the left and right view ace files of the Dash9 are used.So I have downloaded the UKTS_8859 now. which is a common Cl156cab with all 156 specific ace files.
Sorry. no more time today, tomorrow is full, but after that will report the eventual problems with the installation.
Wim
In my trainset I have
UKTS_6048 is a 156420 with common 2000 cab
UKTS_6043 is a Central156 with common 2000 cab but also a possible use of an ArrivaCl156 cab using elements of the Dash9
UKTS_11392 is a Central-exRR156 with the ArrivaCl156 cab
After having seen not only the good set of pictures via the link provided by rtracey, and a look from camera 2 at the front of the models, I have to admit that the 2000 cab is completely wrong, it does not match the small driver cabin besides the inter-unit gangway. The ArrivaCl156 cab is better. The control panel and the small window matches the real thing, but for the left and right view ace files of the Dash9 are used.So I have downloaded the UKTS_8859 now. which is a common Cl156cab with all 156 specific ace files.
Sorry. no more time today, tomorrow is full, but after that will report the eventual problems with the installation.
Wim
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Cab
Hi
To use this cabview
you need to edit Eng file cab line to
"..\\..\\common.cab\\cl156\\cl156.cvf"
some of the class 156 you can download from this site are allready edited to use the above download
Lot of them are Not so you have to edit them as i shown you
hope you can understand me
MARTIN
To use this cabview
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you need to edit Eng file cab line to
"..\\..\\common.cab\\cl156\\cl156.cvf"
some of the class 156 you can download from this site are allready edited to use the above download
Lot of them are Not so you have to edit them as i shown you
hope you can understand me
MARTIN
Indeed oldalistair, I see your problem. The UKTS_8859 constructs a class 156 cab with an error. The file Cl156.cvf contains 8 CabViewControls. Number 9 should have been the TriState type direction control. Now that this is missing 1) the reverser level is not animated, and 2) mouse control of the reverser is not possible and 3) there is no small rectangle with the contents forward/neutral/reverse when using the W and S keys.
But now how to construct a cab in a class 156
Running UKTS_8859_156Cabview.exe creates the folder ...TRAINSET\common.cab\CL156 which contains the file Cl156.cvf plus 9 ace files.
One possibility to use this cab is to change the cabview line in every class 156 engine file to CabView ( ..\\..\\common.cab\\Cl156\\Cl156.cvf ) Note that only before and after a bracket is a single space. In this case the folder containing the class 156 does not need a subfolder with the name cabview.
Another possibility is to change the cabview line in every class 156 engine file to Cabview ( Cl156.cvf ) and put a copy of the file Cl156.cvf in every subfolder named CabView in every class 145 train
The 156 is a 2 car DMU, with the 3 different 156 versions which I have, the consists are
( central 156 central156DMSB ) and
( central 156 central156DMS ) both using UKTS_6043 and
( 156420 15642DMSB) using UKTS_6048 and
( Central-exRR156 Flip Central-exRR156DMS ) using UKTS_11392
After also inserting a cabview line in the Central-exRR156DMS at the location in the file corresponding the cabview line in the Central-exRR this DMU had a correct cab, and using the MSTS-bin update in my system, the reversed cab was correct. In all consists without the Flip ( ) command going to the cab in the rear unit show a cab looking the from the rear unit to the end of the front unit. So if a correct rear cab is to be made, each of the DMS and DMSB engine units also need the cabview line, but in the common folder a Cl156_rv.cvf has to be made. This however has the disadvantage that every unit now obtains a correct cab and an incorrect cab
But now how to construct a cab in a class 156
Running UKTS_8859_156Cabview.exe creates the folder ...TRAINSET\common.cab\CL156 which contains the file Cl156.cvf plus 9 ace files.
One possibility to use this cab is to change the cabview line in every class 156 engine file to CabView ( ..\\..\\common.cab\\Cl156\\Cl156.cvf ) Note that only before and after a bracket is a single space. In this case the folder containing the class 156 does not need a subfolder with the name cabview.
Another possibility is to change the cabview line in every class 156 engine file to Cabview ( Cl156.cvf ) and put a copy of the file Cl156.cvf in every subfolder named CabView in every class 145 train
The 156 is a 2 car DMU, with the 3 different 156 versions which I have, the consists are
( central 156 central156DMSB ) and
( central 156 central156DMS ) both using UKTS_6043 and
( 156420 15642DMSB) using UKTS_6048 and
( Central-exRR156 Flip Central-exRR156DMS ) using UKTS_11392
After also inserting a cabview line in the Central-exRR156DMS at the location in the file corresponding the cabview line in the Central-exRR this DMU had a correct cab, and using the MSTS-bin update in my system, the reversed cab was correct. In all consists without the Flip ( ) command going to the cab in the rear unit show a cab looking the from the rear unit to the end of the front unit. So if a correct rear cab is to be made, each of the DMS and DMSB engine units also need the cabview line, but in the common folder a Cl156_rv.cvf has to be made. This however has the disadvantage that every unit now obtains a correct cab and an incorrect cab
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You can avoid having the view of the coach end by renaming the xxxx_rv.cvf to read....
xxxx_reversed.cvf.
Change the cabview line in the rear facing unit to xxxx_reversed.cvf.
You can then select the rear cab by selecting the rear unit in F9.
Use this method for all single cab EMUs and DMUs.
xxxx_reversed.cvf.
Change the cabview line in the rear facing unit to xxxx_reversed.cvf.
You can then select the rear cab by selecting the rear unit in F9.
Use this method for all single cab EMUs and DMUs.
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Thanks Ian,
my ( Central156 + Central156DMSB ) now have proper cabs at the ends. This did not influence the ( Central-exRR156 + flip + Central-exRR156DMS )
The Central156DMS I have removed and all consists changed accordingly, because it does not match the breaking system and the colour of either pair. Must be a part of another train.
Wim
my ( Central156 + Central156DMSB ) now have proper cabs at the ends. This did not influence the ( Central-exRR156 + flip + Central-exRR156DMS )
The Central156DMS I have removed and all consists changed accordingly, because it does not match the breaking system and the colour of either pair. Must be a part of another train.
Wim