Why do we dislike trainsim.com... opps

CaldRail · Post by **CaldRail** » Wed Jul 03, 2002 10:50 pm

markw wrote:I agree, Rob, we're not elitist or stuffy, and every American I have met personally (and I've met a few over the years) has been gracious and a delight to meet, which is more than can be said for some from this country. What's more they appreciate people taking time to explain things to them, particularly on railway journeys...

Unfortunately I have to agree. There's a recent thread on the other site that kind of proves it.

Goingnorth · Post by **Goingnorth** » Wed Jul 03, 2002 11:31 pm

Happy 'Independence day' to them anyway....

geoffhocking · Post by **geoffhocking** » Thu Jul 04, 2002 6:36 am

From all of the above seems like I will have to have a look at their forums. I have no trouble getting on to the site, and have been downloading loads of italian and Swedish stuff over the last few days. The big trouble is that its slow. 40 times slower than UKTrain sim

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Thu Jul 04, 2002 8:24 am

Possibly the time of day you are trying to get in. When I have a day off and go in at 08.00 or 09.00 when all our American cousins are in the land of nod, it is pretty fast. It's a bonus that the UK internet is quietish at that time too.

Post by **NeutronIC** » Thu Jul 04, 2002 12:00 pm

As a brit married to an American i'd have to say that the only obnoxious Americans i've ever met have been in the US Military (I used to work near RAF Mildenhall and Lakenheath), and i've met a bunch of obnoxious military Brits too, so I don't think americans are generally much different to brits or vice versa, it's just there's a whole load more of them.

Yes, they can be more in your face but I appreciate people being straightforward with me and now that i've grown used to the cultural differences I really don't see any more "problems" with american users than I do brits.

You mention a thread on train-sim.com where they complained about the premium arrangements on here, I'd just like to add that I get a lot of complaints from brits in my mailbox too demanding to know why they can't download xyz file they want and why have it on the site if they can't download it, and can I get it to them on a CD as that would at least make them happy.

I don't personally visit train-sim.com that often simply because I don't much like the layout and I have little to no interest in non british stuff (that's not me being stuffy, I just don't have the time to spend learning about all the worlds railways, maybe one day I can do that, I must admit MSTS has certainly sparked an interest). I don't have a problem with the users, I don't have a problem with Nels (though he did delete all the announcements from UKTS he had on the front page at one point without any reason, which I was a bit upset about) - I just don't have that many hours in the day.

I also can't stand the layout of their file library, but that's because im [b/p]ig headed about mine

Train-sim.com is much bigger than UKTS so the number of people visiting the forums is going to be far higher and going on from that so are the number of unpleasant folk, so it's easy to blow things out of proportion.

As far as access for downloads goes, Nels has a mechanism that he can afford, we have one we can afford, presumably he has a fixed cost link that is capped at a certain amount of "per second" bandwidth rather than our "per byte" costing, probably a T1 or something, which is extremely cheap in the US. If someone is prepared to put an E1 (european equivalent) in to my house i'll more than happily make free bandwidth constant throughout the day capped at the 2mbit per second of the E1

Matt.

Goingnorth · Post by **Goingnorth** » Thu Jul 04, 2002 12:21 pm

NeutronIC wrote: As far as access for downloads goes, Nels has a mechanism that he can afford, we have one we can afford, presumably he has a fixed cost link that is capped at a certain amount of "per second" bandwidth rather than our "per byte" costing, probably a T1 or something, which is extremely cheap in the US. If someone is prepared to put an E1 (european equivalent) in to my house i'll more than happily make free bandwidth constant throughout the day capped at the 2mbit per second of the E1

Matt.

Yep, he does have a T1. I rememember in the early days he was on the official fansite and said he had a T1....so that would explain the difference.
But as you say the US folk are wired up for T1/broadband big time. Most medium size firms have several T1 links going in. So it's back to the same argument....

andynwt · Post by **andynwt** » Thu Jul 04, 2002 1:12 pm

NeutronIC wrote:I don't have a problem with Nels (though he did delete all the announcements from UKTS he had on the front page at one point without any reason, which I was a bit upset about.

hmm, i've just today sent a mail to him asking if he could post an announcement about NWTVR moving to UKTS servers, will be interesting to see if he puts that up then!

trainmad · Post by **trainmad** » Thu Jul 04, 2002 6:06 pm

This looks like it is going into a load of people having a chat... please talk about train sim.com... opps

Goingnorth · Post by **Goingnorth** » Thu Jul 04, 2002 7:06 pm

http://www.train-sim.com/dcforum/DCForumID5/4007.html

Well, I take it all back...you think *we* get excited.

This is the 'Big boy thread' over on 'the other side'...

The 'big boy' was the largest locomotive ever built (I think) and probably one of the most difficult to construct in MSTS...I am in nothing but awe..

Some people though...

bjdick · Post by **bjdick** » Thu Jul 04, 2002 7:18 pm

All the files I've downloaded recently,from T-S.com,have been pretty fast.
Their site is now more diciplined.Anybody starting an argument gets a warning or the "boot".(somebody from this site?)Majority of posters seem to like new style.
Convenient time for me downloading is 0600-0800Bst.Don't all copy,I won't get in!

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Thu Jul 04, 2002 11:29 pm

goingnorth wrote:Well, I take it all back...you think *we* get excited.

This is the 'Big boy thread' over on 'the other side'...

Quote tr**n-s*m.c*m forum
"JUST SHUT THE F*&^ UP YOU BRAIN DEAD MORON"
Unquote

He heheee, can you imagine Matt using polite sentence construction and well reasoned arguments to calm that lot down? I think not.

Goingnorth · Post by **Goingnorth** » Fri Jul 05, 2002 12:12 am

I like:

‘I don't know if I like lil puke or friggen monkey better....

how bout friggen monkey puke?’

LOL

geoffhocking · Post by **geoffhocking** » Fri Jul 05, 2002 6:12 am

I do all my downloading at work betwwen 7 and 8 in the morning (My Freeserve Anytime connectime at home is snail speed). Downloading from UKTrainSim gives me speeds of upto 450 kb/sec, while TrainSim.com is always around 10 kb/sec, never better, never worse.

lwaxl00 · Post by **lwaxl00** » Fri Jul 05, 2002 9:27 am

Cant get any sense out of anybody over there at the moment, they're all playing with their 'Big Boys'.

cheers
Alan

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Fri Jul 05, 2002 10:00 am

Yes, it's all penis envy. Freud would have a field day. Mind you I go for tiny little shunting engines, what does that tell you about me????