London-York

GlennMitchell · Post by **GlennMitchell** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:50 pm

I know that there is the London-Peterborough, and that there is going to be part to of P'boro to York, but does anyone know if there is going to be one CD that brings them all together?

Thanks
GM
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Lad491 · Post by **Lad491** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:23 pm

Not on one CD but you will be able to join the two sections together.

If you want it all on one CD you will have to get MidEastPlus but thats 80's not modern.

Anonymizeruk · Post by **Anonymizeruk** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:28 pm

Yep - Laurie pretty much hit the nail on the head.

The options you will have are-

Part 1 - London to Peterborough
Part 2 - Peterborough to York

If you have both, Part 1 will merge with Part 2 to form the complete London - York route.

Hope this answeres your question

Gaz

mfy1989 · Post by **mfy1989** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:43 pm

and are they going to release the rest of it up to Edinburgh as well?

roonaldo26 · Post by **roonaldo26** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:49 pm

Ihope they do im looking forward to part 2 and it would make it complete with a part 3 further north

alistair

daz20red · Post by **daz20red** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:31 am

from what i have heard there is'nt going to be a part three which is a shame as it would be great if the route carried on to Edinburgh.

mfy1989 · Post by **mfy1989** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:32 am

oooh! that's a shame, I know there's an awful lot of work involved in producing such a length of track but it's a bit naff to do 2 thirds of a route and then stop innit?!

systema · Post by **systema** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:21 pm

Modelling KX to Edinburgh would be a monumental achievement if anyone could manage it!!!

MideastPlus will go from KX to Beningborough, which is a few miles north of York and is the halfway point (197 miles) between London and Edinburgh. Including Tim Courts work for the original and my additional work this amounts to about 2 yrs effort so far and theres still loads of scenary to complete. I would love to reach Edinburgh at some point but at present Im not sure I could take another 2yrs battling with RE!

Mideastplus doesn't just include the ECML though. There are loads of other lines, the principle ones being Kings Lynn, Skegness, Hertford Loop, Knottingley Loop and Doncaster-Gainsborough. The route does not just consider passenger services. Freight (esp coal, since you also have the East Midlands and Yorkshire Coal fields to play with), Mail and Parcels are fully accomodated.

Mick Clarke

parsfan · Post by **parsfan** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:18 pm

<< I know there's an awful lot of work involved in producing such a length of track but it's a bit naff to do 2 thirds of a route and then stop innit?! >>

The first bit is right, it is a lot of work.

Just be thankful that people have taken the time to do those routes and then uploaded them. There is pride but at the same time if things aren't perfect the uploaders are then open, unjustifiably, to the hyper critical. It would be great if they went further but you could always try and build it to Edinburgh yourself.

For me Just writting activities can be a time consumming task and i'm not brave enough to upload mine.

Cobos · Post by **Cobos** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:43 pm

Well all I can say is........... you folks that fancy the route all the way up to Edinburgh, get into RE and start tracklaying, then get your paws into 3D modelling, and you never know, in about 5 years time you may have cracked it.

Backfoot2002 · Post by **Backfoot2002** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:27 am

Cobos wrote:Well all I can say is........... you folks that fancy the route all the way up to Edinburgh, get into RE and start tracklaying, then get your paws into 3D modelling, and you never know, in about 5 years time you may have cracked it.

I think the RE will crack before the person does! MSTS doesnt like really long routes. For example Thames-Mersey. I remember doing an activity from Euston to Liverpool, by the time I got to Crewe MSTS run out all my memory and soon I was driving on thin air!

Suppose the new sims, should have easier route building a better support for longer routes, so London-To the North, may very well be a possabilty....

chrisiveson · Post by **chrisiveson** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:19 am

It's not so much the length as what's in between. Some of the US routes are hundreds of miles but with little scenery or complicated trackwork.
So come on folks, let's have the whole of the UK rail network, say circa 1955,
in one route.

(only kidding)

Chris.

systema · Post by **systema** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:03 am

Backfoot wrote

For example Thames-Mersey. I remember doing an activity from Euston to Liverpool, by the time I got to Crewe MSTS run out all my memory and soon I was driving on thin air!

As far as I know MSTS while not brilliant at memory usage does in fact only load adjacent tiles to wherever you are on the route. It dumps the ones you have passed. So in theory a route could be as long as you like

London to Crewe is only about 170 miles, not excessively long. I think TM has very heavily loaded tiles around Crewe which was probably the cause of your disappearing scenary not the distance from London.

Mick Clarke

Backfoot2002 · Post by **Backfoot2002** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:10 am

Well if you do the route visa versa, from Liverpool to Euston, Crewe will load fine. It may do, as you say load and dump tiles, but in doing so, I dont thin effeciently uses the ram and wastes memory, so as the route goes on, you have less and less memory, and then eventually, the game came to a hault. I think the only way of getting round this, was to save and then load again, that way it resets the memory and performance is restored.

systema · Post by **systema** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:31 am

Backfoot

Im sure your right about inefficient memory usage. MSTS doesn't dump the entire preloaded stuff. As you may have noticed when you load up MSTS a second time without having swithced your computer off it loads quicker!

The OK situation with travelling south to Crewe may be still be due to the surrounding tiles. It could be that youve just come through some lightly populated tiles so your memory is still OK, where as coming north you hit several heavily populated tiles in a row and then hit Crewe. Im just speculating.

The save system gets round the problem, but sometimes messes up the timings of AI services etc in an activity, its also boring saving and reloading. I don't know how much RAM youve got. You could try increasing this. I have 1GB just so I can use RE more comfortably. I also have Freeram installed which frees up memory automatically. Another workround might be to alt tab out of MSTS rather than save. Go into another programme or window, this sometimes frees up a bit of memory. Not sure if its freeram doing its stuff or just windows xp.

Mick Clarke