Class40 Cabview 40168

systema · Post by **systema** » Sun May 28, 2006 11:05 pm

Have downloaded Jon Biltons 40168 for use with switchable cabs etc. The instructions require Kenjis Class 40 cab to be installed but I cant find this anywhere on UKTS. Any ideas?

Mick Clarke

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Sun May 28, 2006 11:33 pm

Hi Mick
Opps...........my mistake

........its one of the cabviews withdrawn from the library.
I'll contact Kenji and see if he'll allow me to upload it completely.
Cheers
Jon

Edit
Library description altered.............In the meantime the Class 37 is similar

Class37 Diesel Loco Cabview [2971391 bytes] - 37cabV2.zip
File ID: 11181 Date: 30 Dec 2004 - 8852 Downloads

petethetim · Post by **petethetim** » Mon May 29, 2006 5:46 am

I have even got away with using this in a couple of Deltics
Tell me one thing Jon is The MSTS Patch a must to use this Loco ?

40058 · Post by **40058** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:43 am

I use the ELR one if that's any help to anyone who has the ELR pack or there's (as mentioned) the Class 37 one.

Jon... Please don't withdraw it, it's a very nice reskin!!!

40058.

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:46 am

a former user wrote:I have even got away with using this in a couple of Deltics
Tell me one thing Jon is The MSTS Patch a must to use this Loco ?

Hi Pete
As the eng file has data in it which standard MSTS doesn't recognise.
I think it'll throw out an error.
Cheers
Jon

delticcity · Post by **delticcity** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:47 am

Pete, yes you cannot use Jons modified locos in an unpatched msts installation. The standard set up doesn't like the additional entries relating to cabviews. Cheers, Dave.

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:50 am

delticcity wrote:Pete, yes you cannot use Jons modified locos in an unpatched msts installation. The standard set up doesn't like the additional entries relating to cabviews. Cheers, Dave.

Hi Dave
Well you can get round the cabview by doing as Steve says using the ELR one.
But I'm not sure on the lights, MSTS may just ignore them....don't know I haven't tried.
Not really sure why someone wouldn't want the patch....unless they get lots of front end crashes like me.

Cheers
Jon

Fodda · Post by **Fodda** » Tue May 30, 2006 8:56 am

John

Remember Kenji had to remove some of his "creations" because he used files stolen from the ELR route CD to build a few of his cabs. If the cabview's not been returned to the file library since his disgrace, then chances are it shouldn't be.

I shall check very closely any cabview that appears here with regards to theft of intellectual copyright.

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Tue May 30, 2006 11:20 am

Fodda wrote:John

Remember Kenji had to remove some of his "creations" because he used files stolen from the ELR route CD to build a few of his cabs. If the cabview's not been returned to the file library since his disgrace, then chances are it shouldn't be.

I shall check very closely any cabview that appears here with regards to theft of intellectual copyright.

Hi Fodder
Thanks for that, I do remember .............but it wasn't anything to do with the above.
Which to be concise, were taken from screenshots out of the Forums, as the CD hadn't been issued. So the work was all his own.
He's been very busy lately, and not got round to re-uploading it.
I hadn't realised when I uploaded the Class 40.
Its very similar to his excellent class 37 cabview.

http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic.php?t=54883

The ELR cabviews are brilliant....but not everyone has them.
As a PS.......It might be a good time to issue a patch so we can start using them with the new MSTS patch.

Cheers
Jon

Fodda · Post by **Fodda** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:05 pm

Jon

LOL... I've done the Peak cabs for Chris's upcoming Peak CD and hopefully they'll be sorted as well for the new patch.

I've not done anything with MSTS since this patch was announced and haven't even downloaded it so I haven't got a clue what needs to be done or undone. I'll see about having a look and maybe doing something with the ELR cabs at some point when I get the new patch installed.

I don't think using somebody elses uploaded screenshots as the basis of any MSTS related items can count as "own work". I wouldn't even dream of using any of Kenji's cab screenshots and just changing a few colours and calling it "all my own work" and never would have done. The guy's a proven thief and as you can see, I'm not at all happy about what happened and never will be.

Just wanted to point out that there may be a very good reason why the 40 cab hasn't been reuploaded.

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Tue May 30, 2006 9:36 pm

Hi Gary
I replied to your PM a few hours ago.
Cheers
Jon

Fodda · Post by **Fodda** » Wed May 31, 2006 10:32 am

LOL... Yes Jon... I only get here once a day at most, so replies may be later than some people like. Reply by PM coming your way.

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Wed May 31, 2006 4:43 pm

Fodda wrote:LOL... Yes Jon... I only get here once a day at most, so replies may be later than some people like. Reply by PM coming your way.

Hi Gary
Thanks.
Cheers
Jon