NEW Patch 154 pour MSTS ( non official )

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Hi
Having got a thinking cap on...I thought I'd try having a barrier wagon between the front coupling and train....so added a headboard.
It worked as the game didn't crash...however very strangely the headboard shot off out of the consist....but just the headboard not the invisy wagon.Cameras 2 ,3 and 4 stayed with the headboard, with camera 1 still in the loco cab, camera 5 was still in the coaches....so I gave chase in the train...hence the following pics....very very strange....but quite good fun.

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Its actually something on the msts wish list...but I doubt it'll happen again.
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MSTSBin is now on a new URL, he got cut off from his old provider due to excess bandwidth usage.

You can now find him at:

http://mstsbin.uktrainsim.com

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Will you be able to develop new locomotives with this included..ie switching cabviews/lighting..? as i am unable to alter the engine files myself on this one :( :( i have tried but my cabview failed to load...i just dont understand all the direction lines etc.
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NeutronIC wrote:MSTSBin is now on a new URL, he got cut off from his old provider due to excess bandwidth usage.

You can now find him at:

http://mstsbin.uktrainsim.com

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Nice one :wink:

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Hi
I noticed :P .... I left him a message lastnight....about the front coupling bug problems.
Its a bit ironic if the patch gives a working rearview....but you cannot shunt. :roll:

http://mstsbin.uktrainsim.com/eng/eng.html

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OTTODAD wrote:
jbilton wrote:Where as I prefer 1.3 (1.4) Train.exe (4764Kb), which doesn't write to Bill and crash WinXP...just closes very quickly.
Hi Jon !

Where did you get the MSTS 1.3 (1.4) Train.exe from ?

O t t o
Hi OTTO

From a few posts back
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PaulH2 wrote:
jbilton wrote:Hi
I'd be interested in hearing from any one who has a different 'Train.exe'
or if they know where it could be downloaded.

The patch works on 1.2 (1.4) Train.exe (3997Kb).
Where as I prefer 1.3 (1.4) Train.exe (4764Kb)
For reasons stated above.

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I've never heard of version 1.3 Jon, is that the version on the Atari branded release? I was under the impression that 1.2 was the latest official version available (via an official patch from MS or on the later MS release).

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Hi Paul
If you right click the train.exe and ask for properties it will proberbly say 1.4.
Thats why you really need to look at the size of the exe file in Kb.
Mine came from the last MS Cd which included the Class50, has always needed the CD in the drive, and seems to not like above 500 consists.
Unfortunately I have not managed to front couple with a patched version of the earlier file.
Hence my question.
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Cheers
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PS Perhaps this post could be made a sticky?....as it keeps getting buired
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jbilton wrote:Hi
I noticed :P .... I left him a message lastnight....about the front coupling bug problems.
Its a bit ironic if the patch gives a working rearview....but you cannot shunt. :roll:

http://mstsbin.uktrainsim.com/eng/eng.html

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Hi Jon,

I've had no problems? Had a mass shunting session with a modified ELR 24, and then with your 31, using both ends couplers was fine :-?
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rwaceyw wrote:
jbilton wrote:Hi
I noticed :P .... I left him a message lastnight....about the front coupling bug problems.
Its a bit ironic if the patch gives a working rearview....but you cannot shunt. :roll:

http://mstsbin.uktrainsim.com/eng/eng.html

Cheers
Jon
Hi Jon,

I've had no problems? Had a mass shunting session with a modified ELR 24, and then with your 31, using both ends couplers was fine :-?
Hi David
Sounds good...what is your parent train.exe in Kbs?....and date please.
Also could you email me your default wag
I'm at work ATM.
Jon Champ reported he had front coupling problems lastnight.
Glad the Class 31s worked OK.
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Hi Guys

Just to let you know that I added the rear cabview to the BATS Class 50 and did a run from Tonbridge to London Bridge on LSE. Uncoupled, ran round and coupled up at the other end. It did take me a couple of attempts to couple up but I did manage it without MSTS crashing. I'm at work at the moment so can't confirm exactly which Train.exe I had although I do know it is a patched original.

I'll have another go this evening with a different loco and I'll let you know how I get on.

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so has there been a patch that effectively sorted the front coupler issue?
If so what was the version number?

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NeutronIC wrote:MSTSBin is now on a new URL, he got cut off from his old provider due to excess bandwidth usage.

You can now find him at:

http://mstsbin.uktrainsim.com

Matt.
Does the "uktrainsim" in the new URL have any significance!?

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jbilton wrote:Hi
I'd be interested in hearing from any one who has a different 'Train.exe'
or if they know where it could be downloaded.

The patch works on 1.2 (1.4) Train.exe (3997Kb).
Where as I prefer 1.3 (1.4) Train.exe (4764Kb)
For reasons stated above.

Cheers
Jon
Until you mentioned it Jon I didn't know they had "versions". My install is from the original CD's patched with the official patches and the SD40 update (whatever number that was) and like you I find 1.3 Where do you get the (1.4) from. Is that the patch I just mentioned? Just an idea but the only other mod I have is to switch of the Kuju opening Video. That doesn't change the .exe version I suppose?

EDIT With you now Train.exe is 1.4 and Launcher is 1.3

Has anyone got an Atari installation? I wonder what that gives?

Also what

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jbilton wrote:
rwaceyw wrote:
jbilton wrote:Hi
I noticed :P .... I left him a message lastnight....about the front coupling bug problems.
Its a bit ironic if the patch gives a working rearview....but you cannot shunt. :roll:

http://mstsbin.uktrainsim.com/eng/eng.html

Cheers
Jon
Hi Jon,

I've had no problems? Had a mass shunting session with a modified ELR 24, and then with your 31, using both ends couplers was fine :-?
Hi David
Sounds good...what is your parent train.exe in Kbs?....and date please.
Also could you email me your default wag
I'm at work ATM.
Jon Champ reported he had front coupling problems lastnight.
Glad the Class 31s worked OK.
Cheers
Jon
Hi Jon,

Will send all these gubbins when i'm back on my laptop. Also having a chat with Jon Champ about it...will see what comes of it!
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Post by champy »

ok
I have tried a 31 of jons and another 31 and i get varying differences, if we are trying to find a common factor should we state locos and wagons to try? As this will then hopefully narrow the things we will need to change.

Jons one (311) gave me a send dont send and another one bounced around and wudnt couple

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Does the "uktrainsim" in the new URL have any significance!?
Just that we're hosting him now - his previous ISP cut him off and since I see his work as being incredibly important and his needs weren't particularly big (far less than most!) I thought it only right to ensure he was at least offered a stable home that fully supported his work. He accepted the offer and is now hosted here for as long as he wants it.

Jon [Champy/Bilton]: Front Coupling... have you also applied all the normal fixes such as checking bounding boxes, inertia tensor values, and that the actual size in the eng file is the same as the actual size in the shape file (that's the one that causes most problems since it knocks everything else out) ? With everything fixed, generally I find the whole front coupling thing quite reliable, but most stock is seriously wrong in those respects - you don't notice it in normal use but it causes front coupling no end of problems.

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