Another German MSTS addon

[asalmon]

Well hang fire for the moment then - you'll be rather busy over the next few weeks!

[yorkie2k]

talking of add-ons, I bought Roundhouse... it wasn't worth £2 let alone £20!!! I will never trust Abacus again. I may be willing to give others a try but I am not going to be so willing to buy an add-on now.

[MartinH]

Yorkie, if you're thinking of buying something, post a thread on this forum first. You'll soon find out what the rest of us think, good or bad.

Alan, I'm actually looking forward to sticking to one route with a fixed set of trains. (That's until the Highworth CD pops through the letterbox ).

Martin

[jadefalcon]

Well, those 3-axle cars were indeed based on old Prussian regional passenger cars, but with new bodywork. I don't remember how they are called in English, but the original Prussian design had several compartments that could only be entered from the outside and were not connected by an internal corridor - meaning that you could not move within the cars, let alone change from one car to the next while driving. After WW2, these cars were fitted with all-new bodies, turning them into standard centre-corridor coaches. And you were right about another detail - the centre axle could indeed move laterally to allow smooth curve running. I also believe that the outer axles could pivot by a few degrees and were, in fact, actuated by the lateral movement of the centre axle - got to look that up, though.

HTH,

D.M.

[saddletank]

talking of add-ons, I bought Roundhouse...

I bought the first CD, ages ago. When I found out it was all 100% internet available anyway I took it back to Virgin. They did not give a refund but I got a credit note which is almost as good.

[saddletank]

Well, those 3-axle cars were indeed based on old Prussian regional passenger cars, but with new bodywork. I don't remember how they are called in English, but the original Prussian design had several compartments that could only be entered from the outside and were not connected by an internal corridor - meaning that you could not move within the cars

In the UK these were called 6-wheeled non-corridor stock. They came along in the 1860s and 1870s as an advance in comfort over the 4-wheelers then in service. They went out of use for pasenger work between the wars (A few on the GWR were converted to 4-wheels for use on branchlines) but as an underframe design, the 6-wheeler was in use n he K on freight stock until the 1970s in departmental use (old MS Stove R parcel vans for instance).

Corridor connections on passenger coaches in the UK only came into use in the 1890s.

[Fodda]

Hmmm... I distinctly remember non-corridor compartment coaches running through north London in the 70s. There were horrible stories of muggings and rapes in these carriages because there was no way out except for the entrance/exit doors between stations.

I'd always purposefully miss the train if a rake of these carriages came in, and wait for a corridor train when travelling home from Arsenal matches, as I was scared stupid that I'd be alone in a compartment and a bunch of opposing fans would all bundle in at the last minute and give me a kicking all the way from Finsbury Park to New Barnet!

Anyone know what type of carriages these were? I just remember they were blue.

[simont]

Mk1 suburban stock, you can get them for MSTS. A lot of first-generation D/DE/EMU's were of that type aswell (I think the 205 might be). As far as I'm aware, the 302's were the last to survive, dying out in the late 1990's.

[peterjay]

I took delivery of mine a few days ago and I'm delighted with it. For what it's worth coming from me (a definate non-techy) I thoroughly recommend it