Atomic Systems

after moving my old harddrive to my new pc, i can't find an exe for TS Tools and editros etc. can anybody suggest and easy to use replacement. i mainly use it for editing consists and making small ( personall) activitys.

Hi
Its just a shortcut

"Driveletter:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Train simulator\launcher.exe" -runeditor

Cheers
Jon

Pompeyfan wrote:I can't find an exe for TS Tools

If you mean the TGATool2.exe then you will find it in Train Simulator\Utils but don't really need a Desktop shortcut for it.

You should be able to open it by left-double clicking an any .ace file.

May have to be installed again on your new computer for it to record it's File Association and selected "Preferences" in the Registry !

If it is TSTools however, then that will have to be installed again too !!

Have you also installed MSTS on your new computer ? If not then it's Editors on the transfered old disk can not be used and MSTS Options and Editors settings will not be saved into the Registry.

How do you install MSTS when there already is a Train Simulator folder and a Train.exe on the disk ?

RENAME the Train Simulator folder to MSTS and install MSTS from CDs into the same location, it's default being C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator. Change that Drive letter if MSTS is in another Drive Partition !

Having done that then first test the new installation to make sure all of it works, including the Editors and if so Delete the newly installed Train Simulator folder and Rename the MSTS folder back to Train Simulator and run the Mprofile.exe in the Train Simulator folder to update MSTS with your new Graphics card details.

After all that MSTS and the above utilities should work like they did before !

O t t o

the only one that works is the exit

Pompeyfan wrote:the only one that works is the exit

Have you installed MSTS on your new computer and it does not work ?

Have you added the old disk as a second internal one ?

In the case of the latter, all the MSTS and Utilities drive letters will have changed !

O t t o

i forgot to post that earlyer, and u had alredy posted it, i will try your advice tho

OTTODAD wrote:
After all that MSTS and the above utilities should work like they did before !

O t t o

what bout all the installled routes, even though i'm having problems

Pompeyfan wrote:What bout all the installed routes, even though i'm having problems

Not getting all the information to help me give you appropriate advice, I must assume a number of things !

The easiest for anybody in your situation, having added an old drive into a new computer and if there is no free IDE socket for it on the Mobo have added it to the ribbon cable of the existing new main system drive, changing their jumpers to Master and Slave, is to rename the old Train Simulator folder MSTS and install MSTS from the CDs to the old disk, quoting the new drive letter used by the MSTS drive as recognised by WIN-XP now.

However, if the new hard drive is a faster one then renaming the old Train Simulator first and then install MSTS on the new drive is what you should do, test MSTS and then COPY/PASTE the old renamed Train Simulator's folders over it.

Being the old computer's hard drive with probably only a C: drive partition on it, it would still contain all the old computers WIN System files which must be deleted.

Just double-clicking on the old disk's TRAIN.EXE will let you run all the installed routes, TML-Berlin U-Bahn and similar stand-alone routes excepted, whether the main folder is called Train Simulator or MSTS, but changed MSTS options will not be saved and have to be reset every time after MSTS has been started and of course the Editors would not work either.

But one way or the other, all the MSTS Utilities, like ConBuilder, Route Riter, RoutesOnOff, Trainstore, TGATool2, TSUtil, Shape File Viewer and others need to be installed again because without a Registry entry for them they will not work, but others like the Shape File Manager will !

Once you have told me exactly what you have done so far, I shall be in a better position to help you !

O t t o

ok, i think this is the information needed.

i got a new unit that had a smaller D:\ drive, so we did a straight swap, 1 in, 1 out, BUT in my stupidity i forgot to unstore my routes in trainstore. now i'm having problems running DC and all my other routes bar WCW. train sim itself works fine, but i can't get AE up

hope this clears things up, might be best to PM me to save forum space and tydyness

Pompeyfan wrote:I got a new unit that had a smaller D:\ drive, so we did a straight swap, 1 in, 1 out, BUT in my stupidity i forgot to unstore my routes in trainstore. now i'm having problems running DC and all my other routes bar WCW. train sim itself works fine, but i can't get AE up.

Hope this clears things up, might be best to PM me to save forum space and tidiness,

Yes it does to a point, but raises more questions !

We can continue this off-forum if you e-mail me at:
ottowipfel@btinternet.com
but then a lot of members will not learn from it.

The choice is your !

Take care, O t t o.

ok, on here as it will be of more benifit for others.


fire ahead with the questions,

Pompeyfan wrote:Fire ahead with the questions,

Sorry for the delay, been out to get something to eat.

Did you install MSTS from CDs and if so where to ? Your new drive C: or the old disk now being your drive D:

Are both disks of similar quality, i.e. 7000 rpm and has the second been jumpered as "Slave" ?

Did you do anything to the old disk after fitting it into your new computer and have you still got the old computer it came from ? If nothing has changed on the old disk then putting it back into the old computer to unstore everything with TRAINSTORE would be an option.

You don't have to actually screw it back into it's drive cage. Leave it outside the computer case on a mouse pad to protect it's circuit board and just connect the ribbon cable into the drive and IDE socket and plug in a power connector. You may have to jumper it for "Master" again !

On the other hand Tony Formoso might be able to help you unstore on the new computer, after TRAINSTORE has been installed according to his instructions ?

Standing by !

O t t o

Pompeyfan wrote:i got a new unit that had a smaller D:\ drive, so we did a straight swap, 1 in, 1 out, BUT in my stupidity i forgot to unstore my routes in trainstore

Like it or lump it. Unless you have a complete backup, you wil need to get the files off the old D: disk drive.

Why don't you simply put back the old disk D:

• Start the system up, and don't do anything other than Zip up the contents of the ROUTES and TRAINS folders within the Train Store Storage folder, storing the archive created on the C: drive.
  
  Then closedown, replace the drive with the new drive, and then extract all the files from the archive back to the MSTS folder.

The steps to do this are :-

• Open Explorer
• Double click on the Train Store storage folder to open it
• Highlight both the TRAINS and the ROUTES folder.
• Rightclick and choose Winzip, then 'Add to Zip file'.
• Set up a New archive somewhere on the C: drive (so that the file will still be there when the new disk is returned)
  Do NOT set the 'save full path info' option
• Click Add to add the files to the new archive.
• When this is complete (this may take some time as there will be thousands of files and folders to be archived), check that all of the files and folders have been archived. (Each file should be included together with its Path relative to MSTS e.g. ROUTES\EUROPE1\Activities\Aftstorm.act)
  NOTE: The Path for each file must NOT include the drive or the MSTS folder names If it does, you incorrectly set the 'save full path info' option. You will have to delete the archive and start again.
• Close Winzip and shutdown
• Replace the new D: drive
• Start up the machine
• Use Winzip to open the archive you just created.
• (With NO files selected) Click on Extract
• In the Extract window that opens, choose the main MSTS folder to extract to e.g. D:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator
• Ensure the 'Use folder names' option is selected.
• Ensure the 'All files' radio button is pressed.
• Click on 'Extract' and the files will be returned to their MSTS locations. (You can answer yes to the dialogue which tells you the folder already exists, and asks if you want to overwrite any files which already exist.)

Tony

TFormoso wrote:Why don't you simply put back the old disk D:

Hi Tony !

I can see that you are getting confused too !

The information I managed to get so far is that he installed the disk from the old computer into the new one, WIN-XP now making it Drive D:, with a TRAINSTORED MSTS on it.

That alone is a bit odd because to start with WIN-XP allocates Drive C: to the bootable partition, usually being the only one on a new computer and then Drive D: to the CD-ROM/DVD drive before other disks are added or partitions are being created !

Then he installed MSTS from CDs and I don't know yet where to, Drive C: ?

The MSTS from the old computer is now useless because he can not UNSTORE it without TRAINSTORE having been installed on the new computer, but if MSTS was installed into Drive C: then an installed TRAINSTORE would be looking for a STORED MSTS there and not on Drive D:, or has TRAINSTORE got a SET MSTS PATH Option ?

I suggested that he puts the old disk back into the old computer, if the WIN-XP Systems folders have not been deleted and UNSTORES MSTS and then move it back into the new computer where he then can COPY/PASTE it over the newly installed Train Simulator folders !

I get the feeling that he has given up, being all quiet and is installing everything all over again !

Take care, O t t o.

OK, perhaps he means is the MSTS drive from the old machine was put into the new machine as drive D: (the second drive).

I am sorry, I had assumed that he had transferred the MSTS files from the old machine to the new (forgetting the stored files, and so leaving them behind).

But, if the MSTS drive was just unplugged from the old machine and then put into the new machine, then there is no problem at all. Train Store always keeps the storage folder on the same drive as the MSTS folders. So the files are already there on the new machine. Nothing is lost.

They could simply be moved back to the MSTS folders, by cutting and pasting the TRAINS and ROUTES folders from the original storage folder. You don't need to put ithe drive back into the old machine.

It's no problem at all. (Unless of course we haven't been told something like the storage files or folders were just deleted?)

If it is like this, and it is all being installed again, it's a pity. There ws no need at all.


Tony