F Button Problems

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F Button Problems

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i have noticed recently that on my train sim the F buttons dont work anymore
i.e.F6 for the visible station and siding names

the only 2 fuctions that do work are the next station display and the track monitor

i uninstalled and reinstalled but that didnt work


any ideas?
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Have you got Simple Controls ticked in the MSTS Options ?

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no i havent only driving aid i have is auto fireman
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The F keys stopping working is one symptom of having too many consists.
If you think this may be the case, and the critical number seems to vary from computer to computer, you should consider installing 'trainstore' which will solve the problem.
If you already use it, or have few consists, you will need to look elsewhere I'm afraid. Cheers, Dave.
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delticcity wrote:The F keys stopping working is one symptom of having too many consists.
That's the first time I heard of that one !

I vaguely remembered others mentioning that problem a long time ago and doing a search over at TS.com found that renaming or deleting the KUJU startup.mpg in the GLOBAL folder to stop the annoying opening video running did the trick !

Your's still running ?

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Post by delticcity »

Hi Otto, I just replied in the other post. I just remembered I wasn't even using that pc to do the graphics work, I used the old one so I have no idea what happened. Getting back to this thread, however; The function keys packing up was the first sign of trouble when I reached a state of 'too many consists' and it was suggested on here straight away that that was the problem. Trainstore solved it instantly. Cheers, Dave
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Post by ibgm84 »

thanx for the help
i havent got trainstore but will install download it after ive done this one

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delticcity wrote:The function keys packing up was the first sign of trouble when I reached a state of 'too many consists' and it was suggested on here straight away that that was the problem. Trainstore solved it instantly.
Thanks Dave for confirming that !

Will be filed away in case somebody else reports a similar problem over at Ts.com ! :wink:

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MSTS can exhibit some really odd behaviour when the 900 consists limit is reached. Not just GUI elements not working but camera movement acting strangely and even train physics behaving in odd ways.

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Back again
downloaded and installed train store

all thats happened is the game runs smoother ( camera movement etc,etc)
and the f keys now exit the game completely

ive gone into "my computer" now

and found it can not be anything todo with the computer it is the game
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ibgm84 wrote:The F keys now exit the game completely.
Are you saying that you still have problems with them ?

I did not think that it had anything to do with having too many consists. There are guys in the States which have over 1500 of them, creating no problems, providing their computers have sufficient RAM.

I myself have 1.5 Gb of RAM, 805 consists, 918 TRAINSET folders and with all my 43 main MSTS routes switched on by Routes-OnOff have no problems whatsoever, other than slow loading of MSTS, understandably with all 43 routes active ! :wink:

Have you tried renaming/deleting the startup.mpg file in the Train Simulator GLOBAL folder which helped some having a similar problem and have you got problems with F-Keys in other applications ?

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i havent out it in the global folder but will try it

the f keys work for everything else

and if i delete it wont that effect the game?
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ibgm84 wrote:If i delete it wont that effect the game?
Deleting the startup.mpg file in the MSTS GLOBAL folder simply stops this annoying KUJU bouncing ball video from playing and it playing seems to have been the reason why some MSTS simmers had problems with their F-Keys !

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ok cheers otto i will give it a try
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all that has done is stoped the f buttons from exiting the game
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