May I ask a favour Please.

[Dave1955]

First of all happy new year to all simmers. Esp those who are good enough to spend time and know-how for the benifit of us others, may you have a great and productive new year.

My grouse, yes there has to be a first for the year. Sorry it's me; Most of us download a route first to get a flavour of it, some routes we want to buy the CD others are just fun for play about. My request is that the authors be requested to remove consits, paths, services and traffic that is only available on the CD from download versions, or advice the downloader what needs removing to avoid future problems with their MSTS instalation. If a consortium has their act together they know what is not included so they know how best to advise. A missing or broken path, or a service with a wrong database can cause hours of problems for someone who does not know what they are looking for exactly. Please my friends, don't put up for download items that are only for sale. (Updates excepted of course)

Happy new year to you all.

Dave

[joea1]

Does that include freeware activities which use commercial stock?

[hertford]

Yes, I should think it does, I did the same thing with LGVmed 3.0.

[Dave1955]

Hi all,

99% of activities I have downloaded contain in the readme file notification that CD contents are needed so no problems. It's just routes designed for CD and then put up for download with all the bits provided on the CD included but no stock, out of date paths etc. Most of us just want a look to see if we want the CD rather than a few hours substituting consits and deleting paths and services. A bit more info for download routes is all that's needed.

Dave

[JonathonAG]

So are you trying to say that, if a locomotives is on ukts avaliable to download, and also in a ukts c.d, the downloadable one should be removed from the file libary?

[HerbertS]

First of all happy new year to all simmers. Esp those who are good enough to spend time and know-how for the benifit of us others, may you have a great and productive new year.

My grouse, yes there has to be a first for the year. Sorry it's me; Most of us download a route first to get a flavour of it, some routes we want to buy the CD others are just fun for play about. My request is that the authors be requested to remove consits, paths, services and traffic that is only available on the CD from download versions, or advice the downloader what needs removing to avoid future problems with their MSTS instalation. If a consortium has their act together they know what is not included so they know how best to advise. A missing or broken path, or a service with a wrong database can cause hours of problems for someone who does not know what they are looking for exactly. Please my friends, don't put up for download items that are only for sale. (Updates excepted of course)

Happy new year to you all.

Dave

Dave,

May I ask which routes you've had trouble/issues with?

Cheers,
Herbert

[Dave1955]

Hi and best wishes Herbert,

Come on my friend, no one here will name authors or their work, they all do a sterling job and we have no wish to stop the uploads. If you have come across a problem with a route and it is one I have tried please e-mail me at dave_revell@hotpop.com If it is one I have tried and had to 'fix' for non CD use I will tell you the mesures I took. I am very nieve in anything but 'C' and 'C++' but find I can get reasonable results from playing with a bit of code for a while. May I suggest that you use route_riter to check before you run any new route on MSTS.

Dave

[HerbertS]

Hi and best wishes Herbert,

Come on my friend, no one here will name authors or their work, they all do a sterling job and we have no wish to stop the uploads. If you have come across a problem with a route and it is one I have tried please e-mail me at dave_revell@hotpop.com If it is one I have tried and had to 'fix' for non CD use I will tell you the mesures I took. I am very nieve in anything but 'C' and 'C++' but find I can get reasonable results from playing with a bit of code for a while. May I suggest that you use route_riter to check before you run any new route on MSTS.

Dave

Dave,

the reason I asked is that I have never had a problem with downloaded routes, and was wondering if your problems were with routes that I haven't downloaded, or you were seeing problems that I'm not.

I tried using RR once, and from that five minutes didn't feel that it was for me. If things work, why go looking for trouble? Just because RR says there are problems, doesn't mean that there are.

But as I said I've never had a problem with routes that I've downloaded from here. So I have never experienced what you're talking about. Which is why, if you post that you have a problem with some routes, I would like to know which routes you're talking about, so I/we can be aware.

Cheers,
Herbert.

[andrewtoplis]

Just to answer JonathonAG,
I dont think thats what they are driving at, but if a route is made for cd distribution, then is put up for download, could consists that include stock available ONLY on the cd be removed, as they would need changing before use.

Andy

[JonathonAG]

Ah, now i see, thanks for making that clearer. Although, most do say what stock is needed and where they are avaliable from

[ianmacmillan]

I don't think there is a problem with naming the routes you are having problems with.

The use of CD only stock in an activity included with the download version is probably an oversight by the author with I am sure he would wish to correct so that you can enjoy his work.

Name the items of stock you need in the forums and we will try to find an alternative for you.

You should also have no fear of Route Riter. Many of it's functions you will never use. Those you do will not cause problems.
Changing stock in an activity is easy with this program but you can always try Activity Editor as an alternative.

[Dave1955]

Sorry for the delay, my computer droped its firebox and it's only engineer wanted paying before fixing it. (flippin plastic ran out through christmas. Bahhhhh. )

May I add codicil? Where defult consists are used that the name of the consist is not alterd. I am refering of course to a recent route upload which uses the Green Craven.

[meonia]

My irk is that I have quite a few duplicates in my Trainset folder due to authors placing downloadable stock onto CD's also (usually with a prefix). So thus I have 2 or 3 copies of the same stock, just different names on my HD. I believe I have every CD so far except Dorset Coast and the number of duplicates add up.

Is it possible to get a naming convention. If not, why cant the duplicated stock on a CD be the same name as what is in the download library, or a name that Activity Analyser can recognise and change automatically so we dont have to spend ages sorting things out one at a time? It would be fine if the CD stock were upgrades to the download library models, but in almost all cases they are the same models.

Mike.

[ianmacmillan]

We've been here before.

The reason different names are used for CD stock is to prevent it overwriting your existing downloaded stock.

You may have changed the brake and couplings on your stock and I'm sure you would hate to be 2 hours into an activity to find the train won't couple because your settings have been overwritten.

Also, some of the CD stock has been upgraded with corrected physics which makes it perform differently.

I recently upgraded my NCB 15ft wagons. The version on the Burton CD is the earlier version. You wouldn't want to lose the newer version, would you?