MSTS MINI ROUTES

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MSTS MINI ROUTES

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Yes, I was the one who promoted this old idea until Mike Simpson eventually built it into his Route Riter and MS also promised to look into for MSTS-2.

The names of the MINI Route folders can be anything and do not have to be called "Train Simulator". The shorter their names the easier to create Desktop Shortcuts for their TRAIN- and LAUNCHER.EXE -runeditor Target: and Start in: lines. :wink:

They are fully functioning copies of the installed Train Simulator and do not need a Registry entry. Any TRAIN.EXE or LAUNCHER.EXE running anywhere automatically checks the default MSTS Registry entries and re-sets the default MSTS OPTIONS from any MINI route if necessary.

Both the Editors can be used, but not the Route Geometry Extractor, which works with the installed into the Registry Train Simulator only.

Another advantage of having MINI routes is that they can be experimented and messed with without interfering with files in the GLOBAL and other folders in the default MSTS as well as being able to reduce the size of their TRAINSET folders, removing rolling stock their activities do not need, loading their routes faster still. The Route Riter has a function to just get the rolling stock the MINI routes need.

I am using a "MINI ROUTES MASTER" which after creating it once can then be used as blueprint for other copies.

O.K., TRAINSTORE does similar but was found by many a handful to get used to, apart from a huge and comprehensive manual having to be learned from first ! :wink:

Below is what mine look like, created by myself before the Route Riter automated much of it !

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P.S.: Edited to correct a few minor spelling mistakes ! :cry:



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I did something similar to that Otto, but I put all the route and editor links in a seperate folder with a short cut to the desk top to keep things tidy. The only thing I havn't sussed out is putting activites on the routes...the only way I know to is to edit the path satement in the registry...is there a simpler way?
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I've found that train.exe has the registry key stored in ascii format, so it may be possible to modify the cloned train.exe's to point to different keys, they each mini-MSTS installation is independent.

I've not tried it yet, but I imagine it will work.
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I have no problem linking the editor tools or the train.exe to each route, just unpacking apk's thats a nusance
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Tsunpak.exe has the registry key as well. I will try editing the bytes to see if I can repoint it at another MSTS installation.
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sounds interesting Tim. It would be the final piece in the mini route saga :wink:
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It works! Changing the bytes for the key path (starting at 27AB4), and setting up a new key for the mini route path, means tsunpak unpacks to the mini route:)

I'm not sure how much the key can be changed, but I'm sure Mike can work his magic and allow it to cope with any number of mini routes.
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jimmyladd wrote: The only thing I havn't sussed out is putting activities on the routes...the only way I know to is to edit the path statement in the registry...is there a simpler way?
I you mean using the "Activities Unpacker" Tim Booth covered, I fond it the easiest to create an empty dummy folder for that route they are for in the default MSTS ROUTES folder and put into it that route's *.trk & *.tdb files.

I also RENAME the default MSTS TRAINS folder temporarily in case the Unpacker also install Consists and Rolling Stock for them.

Beware the Unpacker announcing that the route's .trk file has a higher Serial Number than the to be unpacked activities, which could mean that same of them could have had their paths changed since they were created !

Then having unpacked the activities it is just a case of COPY/PASTE all into the MINI ROUTE they are for ! :wink:

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wacampbell wrote:This special version merely changes the registry entry to point to the L&PS mini-route, then calls the original MSTS TSUNPACK. When the original MSTS TSUNPACK exits, it restores the registry.
Not doubting your ability for one moment, but I and many others do not like add-ons to access the Registry, which some do to merely add an entry to "Start/Programs" !

I unzip or install any add-on into a temporary folder first before committing it to the MAIN MSTS.

Not that I have anything to worry about, always having a recent NORTON GHOST IMAGE of my WIN-XP system drive and Registry to fall back on ! :wink:

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The latest versios of Route-Riter have, under the RailDriver tab, options to change the MSTS path in the Registry (and to restore it), this is necessary for RailDriver if you have more than one instance of MSTS on your PC.

However this option also allows you to point to any mini-route as the Registered Path, and while you keep that path, then you can install your .apk activity files with no problems. This option also allows you to use the RGE on other instances of MSTS, not just the main installation.

It also includes an option to read the current registry path so that you do not get too confused.
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mikesimpson wrote:The latest versions of Route-Riter have, under the RailDriver tab, options to change the MSTS path in the Registry (and to restore it), this is necessary for RailDriver if you have more than one instance of MSTS on your PC.
Who's a clever boy, Mike ! :)

How many more blades has your MSTS Swiss Army Knife hidden ? :wink:

This RAILDRIVER option will avoid the hassle of having to load a MSTS MINI copy first and then start the RAILDRIVER and also make it unnecessary to copy a MINI Route I am working on back to the Main MSTS to add or delete tiles in the Route Geometry Extractor !

Doing this in a MINI Route, would the TEMPLATE folder be required ?

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Post by tinsley »

Thanks for the 'registry path' tip... :wink:
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yeah Thanks Mike..that helps alot! :D
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