A little while back I stuck a new SATA HD on my machine, then never got around to putting the OS onto the new drive - which is a bit of a waste.
Now I want to re-install XP onto the new drive (G:\), but only get options to repair / re-install the existing installation on C:\
being lazy, I wanted to get XP running on G before moving files from C and then reformatting C.
Any suggestions??
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Make bootable floppy....with SATA drivers on it.
Dis-connected C drive.
Boot from floppy.
Install OS to SATA drive...which will then become C:
Re-connect old HD...which will become G:...and then reformat.
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Jon
Make bootable floppy....with SATA drivers on it.
Dis-connected C drive.
Boot from floppy.
Install OS to SATA drive...which will then become C:
Re-connect old HD...which will become G:...and then reformat.
Cheers
Jon
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Still haven't cracked this one
I have now disconected the existing IDE HD which held my original OS installation and tried installing XP on the new SATA HD.
Running XP set up from CD....doesn't recognise any drives in my machine :mad: SATA drivers etc should be installed - they display during system start up.
If I boot from floppy, I can only get a:, indicating that the cd and sata drivers are not loading from the floppy boot up disk.
Any ideas??
I have now disconected the existing IDE HD which held my original OS installation and tried installing XP on the new SATA HD.
Running XP set up from CD....doesn't recognise any drives in my machine :mad: SATA drivers etc should be installed - they display during system start up.
If I boot from floppy, I can only get a:, indicating that the cd and sata drivers are not loading from the floppy boot up disk.
Any ideas??
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Hirkk01 wrote:Still haven't cracked this one
If I boot from floppy, I can only get a:, indicating that the cd and sata drivers are not loading from the floppy boot up disk.
Any ideas??
You have to make the bootable floppy...using the drivers that came with your SATA drive.
If you didn't get any, try searching the manufacturers site...there will be some on there.
Cheers
Jon
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A quick search on http://www.google.co.uk got this hit
http://www.hothardware.com/forum/messag ... erthread=y
Installing Windows
Once you have the drive(s) connected you are ready to start installing XP.
Master and Slave
Remeber since it's serial you can only have one device per SATA port/cable so SATA drives don't have jumpers. On the Motherboard SATA1 Port is for the primary device, SATA2 port is for the secondary device etc.
SATA controller driver
Your Motherboard or SATA controller card requires a driver to work properly. If you did not get a Floppy Disk with the SATA driver included with your Motherboard you will have to make one. The SATA drivers can be located on the installation CD that came with your Motherboard or preferably, download the latest SATA controller drivers from the manufacturers site. Once you have located the drivers copy them to a formatted floppy disk. Make sure they are in the root directory i.e. not contained within any folders.
BIOS settings
When you turn on the PC hit the Delete key when prompted and you will enter the BIOS (Basic Input Output System). Here you set the first boot device to be the CDROM drive, the option is usually found under the Advanced Options section but this depends on your BIOS and you may have to look around for it. Once you have done this save and exit.
Installing the SATA controller driver
Once you have set the PC to boot from the CD make sure the XP CD is in the CD drive and start the installation as per usual. Within the first minute or so of the installation Windows will prompt you to press F6 to install RAID or SCSI drivers, do this. Windows will continue to install then ask you to locate the driver. now with the floppy disk created earlier in drive A: select the driver and hit Enter.
With the SATA drivers installed you can now continue the Windows installation as usual.
BIOS settings revisited
Once Windows has finished installing you will need to make sure the PC is set to boot from the SATA drive. To do this make the first boot device SATA if the option is available. If not you have two options: HD0 - If there are no IDE HDs present, or SCSI if you do plan on running an IDE HD as a secondary device.
Cheers
Jon
A quick search on http://www.google.co.uk got this hit
http://www.hothardware.com/forum/messag ... erthread=y
Installing Windows
Once you have the drive(s) connected you are ready to start installing XP.
Master and Slave
Remeber since it's serial you can only have one device per SATA port/cable so SATA drives don't have jumpers. On the Motherboard SATA1 Port is for the primary device, SATA2 port is for the secondary device etc.
SATA controller driver
Your Motherboard or SATA controller card requires a driver to work properly. If you did not get a Floppy Disk with the SATA driver included with your Motherboard you will have to make one. The SATA drivers can be located on the installation CD that came with your Motherboard or preferably, download the latest SATA controller drivers from the manufacturers site. Once you have located the drivers copy them to a formatted floppy disk. Make sure they are in the root directory i.e. not contained within any folders.
BIOS settings
When you turn on the PC hit the Delete key when prompted and you will enter the BIOS (Basic Input Output System). Here you set the first boot device to be the CDROM drive, the option is usually found under the Advanced Options section but this depends on your BIOS and you may have to look around for it. Once you have done this save and exit.
Installing the SATA controller driver
Once you have set the PC to boot from the CD make sure the XP CD is in the CD drive and start the installation as per usual. Within the first minute or so of the installation Windows will prompt you to press F6 to install RAID or SCSI drivers, do this. Windows will continue to install then ask you to locate the driver. now with the floppy disk created earlier in drive A: select the driver and hit Enter.
With the SATA drivers installed you can now continue the Windows installation as usual.
BIOS settings revisited
Once Windows has finished installing you will need to make sure the PC is set to boot from the SATA drive. To do this make the first boot device SATA if the option is available. If not you have two options: HD0 - If there are no IDE HDs present, or SCSI if you do plan on running an IDE HD as a secondary device.
Cheers
Jon
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OK - so I have managed to get the new SATA raptor disc recognised, partitioned and XP installed 
Upgraded from 512 to 1Gig of RAM at the same time, and have re-installed MSTS and my favourite add-on routes and stock.
Problem is my pc is much much slower than before. 3DMark scores are about half what they were, and MSTS framerates have dropped from 20-30 in TM4 to 5-10
I have re-installed all of the correct drivers, but suspect that I have missed a fundamental BIOS / HD setup / windows setup or optimisation......it is over 18 months since I last rebuilt my pc - new mb, cpu, RAM, OS etc, so what have I forgotten??
Any hints greatly appreciated.
Upgraded from 512 to 1Gig of RAM at the same time, and have re-installed MSTS and my favourite add-on routes and stock.
Problem is my pc is much much slower than before. 3DMark scores are about half what they were, and MSTS framerates have dropped from 20-30 in TM4 to 5-10
I have re-installed all of the correct drivers, but suspect that I have missed a fundamental BIOS / HD setup / windows setup or optimisation......it is over 18 months since I last rebuilt my pc - new mb, cpu, RAM, OS etc, so what have I forgotten??
Any hints greatly appreciated.
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Hmmm... I wonder!rkk01 wrote:OK - so I have managed to get the new SATA raptor disc recognised, partitioned and XP installed
Upgraded from 512 to 1Gig of RAM at the same time, and have re-installed MSTS and my favourite add-on routes and stock.
Problem is my pc is much much slower than before. 3DMark scores are about half what they were, and MSTS framerates have dropped from 20-30 in TM4 to 5-10
I have re-installed all of the correct drivers, but suspect that I have missed a fundamental BIOS / HD setup / windows setup or optimisation......it is over 18 months since I last rebuilt my pc - new mb, cpu, RAM, OS etc, so what have I forgotten??
Any hints greatly appreciated.
Did you at some point reset your BIOS settings to the default settings? If you did, my guess is that you may need to find the settings
"Video BIOS Cacheable"
"System BIOS Cacheable"
(or similar - usually found in the "Chipset" area) and enable them. They are normally disabled by default. Enabling BIOS caching can speed a PC up no end if it doesn't cause memory conflicts elsewhere. Basically it caches (copies) the contents of the system BIOS and video card BIOS ROMS into system RAM and runs/accesses them from there as system RAM access is MUCH faster than ROMS (usually around 7ns per cell for RAM as opposed to 450ns for ROM). Be careful though, I did have stability problems on one PC I tried this with, which disappeared when I turned off BIOS caching. Usually, it works fine or not at all.
If that doesn't speed things up, it could be the SATA driver itself. Try the drive/motherboard manufacturer's web site for an updated driver. Sometimes there can be very noticeable speed differences between driver versions.
Also check for correct drive settings in the BIOS (UDMA/PIO modes) AND in Device Manager in Windows to see if the drive is running in compatibility mode & has the correct DMA/PIO settings there as well. This sort of problem can be a real PITA to fix!
Just a few thoughts!
GK
Cheers greenknight,
Not too sure that it is a BIOS setting now...
I kept the original XP installation on the other drive, and booted via that drive yesterday.
3DMark and MSTS performance on the original HD is the same as previous - ie 20-30fps on TM4, about 12400 score on 3DMArk.
Performance on the RAptor is about 50% of this. Comparing system info specs for each system suggests that it it the AGS port that is acting up. Both card and port are 8x, buit on the slow set up it is only reporting as 1x, with fast write disabled, rather than enabled.
Because each XP install is performing differently I am assuming it is a PNP setting in XP rather than a BIOS setting. I will remove the card and reinstall uneder the new XP installation and see if that makes any difference.
Cheers
Not too sure that it is a BIOS setting now...
I kept the original XP installation on the other drive, and booted via that drive yesterday.
3DMark and MSTS performance on the original HD is the same as previous - ie 20-30fps on TM4, about 12400 score on 3DMArk.
Performance on the RAptor is about 50% of this. Comparing system info specs for each system suggests that it it the AGS port that is acting up. Both card and port are 8x, buit on the slow set up it is only reporting as 1x, with fast write disabled, rather than enabled.
Because each XP install is performing differently I am assuming it is a PNP setting in XP rather than a BIOS setting. I will remove the card and reinstall uneder the new XP installation and see if that makes any difference.
Cheers
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Another thought!
From what you describe, my gut feeling says this is a motherboard chipset driver problem. Have you installed the motherboard chipset drivers for WinXP? Have a look in Device Manager in the System Devices for both WinXP installations & compare devices. Specifically check that the Processor to AGP Controller exists and is working properly. Mine is as follows:
"Intel(R) 82845 Processor to AGP Controller 1A31"
This setting may vary with motherboard chipsets & drivers. If you can't find any reference to this, the chipset drivers may not be installed or working properly - particularly if there's no chipset/manufacturer-specific entry under IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers section (I have an Intel 845 chipset on my Asus mobo and Device Manager says "Intel(R) 82801DB Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 24CB"). Intel chipset drivers can be downloaded (preferably) from your motherboard manfacturer's website or from http://www.intel.com.
If the appropriate chipset drivers are not installed, the graphics card driver works OK, but almost certainly at reduced speed.
HTH,
GK
From what you describe, my gut feeling says this is a motherboard chipset driver problem. Have you installed the motherboard chipset drivers for WinXP? Have a look in Device Manager in the System Devices for both WinXP installations & compare devices. Specifically check that the Processor to AGP Controller exists and is working properly. Mine is as follows:
"Intel(R) 82845 Processor to AGP Controller 1A31"
This setting may vary with motherboard chipsets & drivers. If you can't find any reference to this, the chipset drivers may not be installed or working properly - particularly if there's no chipset/manufacturer-specific entry under IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers section (I have an Intel 845 chipset on my Asus mobo and Device Manager says "Intel(R) 82801DB Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 24CB"). Intel chipset drivers can be downloaded (preferably) from your motherboard manfacturer's website or from http://www.intel.com.
If the appropriate chipset drivers are not installed, the graphics card driver works OK, but almost certainly at reduced speed.
HTH,
GK