Vapourware or Terry's Trains?

rorz101uk · Post by **rorz101uk** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:02 am

jbilton wrote:
rorz101uk wrote:has anyone notice tho that the Standard 5 Cab? the view from inside is at 45 angle? is there anyway to put this right?
Hi
If you change the 10 to 0 it'll level it

Tr_CabViewFile (
CabViewType ( 3 )
CabViewFile ( STD5Cabhudfront1024.ace )
CabViewWindow ( 0 0 640 300 )
CabViewWindowFile ( "" )
Position ( -1.2 3 0 )
Direction ( 2 19 10 )

I'd assumed it was meant to show the angle of perspective from the drivers position though.

Cheers
Jon

thanks jon looks gus now

dikkidee · Post by **dikkidee** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:10 pm

Terry - Thanks for these fantastic models, especially the SDJR 2P and the three Standards. The cabs are brilliant - better in my opinion than the Standard Cabs on the Nene Valley Standard 5's.

Off too play now - Standard Arthurs Rule OK!!

dikkidee · Post by **dikkidee** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:26 pm

A little Standard 5 anecdote: As a 12 year old I stood on the up platform at Templecombe Station on the West of England main line on a Saturday afternoon in the summer of 1966 "spotting" my favourite Bulleids when a Standard Arthur came down the bank towards London at the head of an express. Straight through the station it went on the through line, (as kids we used to call them "Middle Trackers") whistle wide open screaching for all it was worth it must have been doing 90 plus. The smoke, the noise, the whistle, it was absolutely fantastic and as it dissapeared into the distance all that was left was a stunned silence until someone muttered "Jesus wept what was that!" It was one of those moments which made a lasting impression in your mind, an impression that one can never forget. It whats sums steam up really is'nt it I don't think words can really describe the feeling. If I recall it correctly the engine was "Lynnette" I can't remember the number off the top of my head. - Dick.

chrisiveson · Post by **chrisiveson** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:44 pm

That will have been 73087 then. ':)'

Regards

Chris.

dikkidee · Post by **dikkidee** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:50 pm

Ta - Dick.

rorz101uk · Post by **rorz101uk** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:18 pm

is there anyway you can move the head lamps to a passenger for 73156?

longbow · Post by **longbow** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:31 pm

Talking of Standard Arthurs, I know they took the names off the SR Arthurs but did they also get their original nameplates?

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:00 pm

I doubt it. I think the N15 King Arthurs (I think that's right) were still knocking around when the Standard 5s emerged. Plus the Urie locos had an additional line on their place (don't know what it said, "King Arthur Class" or something I'd guess, a la "West Country Class" on the WCs...) which wasn't present on a standard arthur.

longbow · Post by **longbow** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:26 pm

The Standard Arthurs got their names only after their namesakes amongst the orginal Arthurs were withdrawn, I believe. But I've just found a close up of preserved Standard Arthur 'Camelot', which shows that it's not carrying the original King Arthur plates.

Plates aside, the Standard Arthurs all seem to have the later high sided tender, rather than the version modelled by duckweed. So they aren't a straightforward reskin. Pity.

chrisiveson · Post by **chrisiveson** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:52 pm

Summer 1961 ABC British Railways Locomotives.
Arthurs 73080 - 73089 had BR1B 4,725 gall. + 7 ton coal
(same as some 9Fs)

Arthurs 73110 - 73119 had BR1F 5,625 gall + 7 ton coal
(same as some 9Fs)

But as noted:
These pairings are not permanent and are liable to alteration with changed operating conditions.

Regards

Chris.

longbow · Post by **longbow** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:59 pm

Thanks. But which tender has Terry modelled? Is it the BR1B?

chrisiveson · Post by **chrisiveson** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:21 pm

If I had to guess, then:

BR1 (same as some brits and all clans) 4,250 gall + 7 ton coal

BR1B and BR1F both high sided.

Regards

Chris.

chrisiveson · Post by **chrisiveson** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:41 pm

Regards

Chris. ':)'

longbow · Post by **longbow** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:06 am

Thanks. So it appears that Terry modelled the step-sided BR1 tender and that all the Standard Arthurs (73080-730089 and 73110-73119) had what I assume were high-sided BR1B and BR1F tenders.

duckweed · Post by **duckweed** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:20 am

Patches about to be uploaded to fix tender light position, weight and coal and water contents on 73035 and to place BR1B tenders behind 73133 and 73156 and BR1C tender behind 73096. I believe 73096 as preserved uses a BR1 tender so some of you may wish to leave that as it is.
Note that the new files overwrite the old so if you think you may want to change back, back up before installing.

Regards,

~Terry~