If people didn't expect routes to be built, and instead had a go themselves instead of constantly going on about how famous routes ought to be done, then UKTS would be a much more vibrant place.
At the moment 3/4 of the discussion is made by people who have contributed little but are constantly asking asking asking for stuff. Now in a lot of people's cases this can be explained by not having enough time. I have no problem with that (I never have enough time
I hope I am not being too negative, but instead I am trying to highlight how talk of 'it should be done' and 'why hasn't it done' just leads to pointless and annoying conversations which don't get the desired route, train or whatever nearer to completion. In fact having 20 people go on about how it should be done is more likely to put off expierienced route builders who understandably dont want to be put under the constant pressure of being asked when it is going to be ready by the newer members of the forum.
Can you see where I'm coming from?
(sorry for going a bit OT, but I feel it is a point worth making, if you disagree, feel free to flame me
Chris

