GWR Garratts

partyspiritz · Post by **partyspiritz** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:54 am

Well before people start telling me I am talking rubish. I have spent a long time doing my research.

Beyer-Peacock tried to interest the GWR with two types

2-8-0 + 0-8-2T Heavy Freight

4-6-0 + 0-6-4T Mixed Traffic

I have found the plans for the Mixed Traffic. what I would like to find is someone who would like to build this for MSTS.

The GWR did build two 4-8-2 + 2-8-4 Garratts for Iran along with some wide firebox 2-8-0 under direction of F C Hall.

If any one would like to take this I would be more than happy to give them all the info they need

John

Swindon

partyspiritz · Post by **partyspiritz** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:56 pm

I know that it would not be an over night thing and I understand that loco building is bit of complex thing. I am just getting to grips with route building.

John

Swindon

Christopher125 · Post by **Christopher125** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:51 pm

Hi

The problem is that everyone who can buld a loco normally is, and they tend to be what either they want to do or are doing it for an orgnasiation. The best thing I can reccomend is you try and learn yourself using Decapod's 3DC tutorials, it will help you build scenery items as well for your route.

Chris

johndibben · Post by **johndibben** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:46 pm

And if you can build them, you can build anything

partyspiritz · Post by **partyspiritz** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:07 pm

I think you may be right thanks all.

What would be the Recommended software to use...

Thx

John

Swindon

peterholton · Post by **peterholton** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:14 pm

whoa... That sort of talk will get you into big, big trouble. Next thing you know, you'll be finding out about all sorts of things, and, before you know it, 3 years of your life has gone, along with Â£1000's spent on software, upgrading computers, better monitors, etc. etc.

Best leave quietly now, while you can. Just pretend people make models for Train Simulator with magic. Believe me, it's better for you, in the long run...

Peter

peterholton · Post by **peterholton** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:18 pm

btw... joke...

Paul Gausden's plugins are written for 3DCanvas:

http://www.amabilis.com

Other fine modelling programs are available, ranging from free downloads to a couple of hundred Â£.

see:

http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic.php?t=29065

Peter

BR7MT · Post by **BR7MT** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:22 pm

gMax is free and there are several tutorials available for it

Regards

Dan

RobertM · Post by **RobertM** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:32 pm

partyspiritz wrote:Well before people start telling me I am talking rubish. I have spent a long time doing my research.

Beyer-Peacock tried to interest the GWR with two types

2-8-0 + 0-8-2T Heavy Freight

4-6-0 + 0-6-4T Mixed Traffic

I have found the plans for the Mixed Traffic. what I would like to find is someone who would like to build this for MSTS.

The GWR did build two 4-8-2 + 2-8-4 Garratts for Iran along with some wide firebox 2-8-0 under direction of F C Hall.

If any one would like to take this I would be more than happy to give them all the info they need

John

Swindon

Are you sure

My dad has got a Bayer Peacock book witch list's all the Garrats built and there is no mention of two 4-8-2 + 2-8-4 being built for the GWR!!!

Can you give some more infomation, and if possoble a picture

RobetrM

rwaceyw · Post by **rwaceyw** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:52 pm

I don't think they where built, just proposed.

David

gblandford · Post by **gblandford** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:06 pm

Here seems are good hostory of the garret but they don't mention GWR

http://www.beyerpeacock.co.uk/main/Beye ... tives.html

partyspiritz · Post by **partyspiritz** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 11:13 pm

Ok lets put a few things into place for you all.

What started this was a book by Michael Rutherford Great Western 4-6-0's

if you turn to page 180 top of the page there is some info then also page 192 of the same book

I Have been in contact with the Iran State Railway who confrimed that the plates on locos. Built at Swindon I have asked if they could send photos. There are also records at Swindon's Steam Museum. From the records that have of the loco's built by Beyer-Peacock There is no mention of them building any for Iran.

As for GWR Garratts they never got off drawing board basically they would have been a double grange

John

Swindon[/img]

dcduncan · Post by **dcduncan** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:30 am

Hi folks,

Just to add a few more sparks to the fire, though the GWR may have had talks with Beyer about the building of a garratt or garratts there were no solid proposals for such an engine. The RCTS books detail most of the proposed designs for GWR locos even if only put forward to the drawing office but never designed and the garratts do not feature.
This doesn't mean that discussion were held and even some sort of plans drawn but they were never presented to the GWR drawing offoce, as near as I can tell.

David

partyspiritz · Post by **partyspiritz** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:41 am

Michael Rutherfords Great Western 4-6-0s at work clearly shows a Drawing of a double grange.

The whole point of this was to build a model of this for MSTS and as I have drawing of what it should look like it will be so much easier. The gives me enough information
of what it would look like.

As I am unable post a big enough photo for you the one added to my profile will have to do. I sure this is topic that is worth debating further but hear is not the right place.

Thx for all of your input.

John

Swindon

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:01 pm

Please, if you wish to debate, feel free

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