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Eurostar Route
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:31 am
by joeholmes
Hey Guys
As a huge Eurostar fan is there a route from lets say waterloo to paris out there......
Please Advise
Joe
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:41 am
by LucaZone
Wouldnt you much prefer the modern CTRL route that is to open in 2007?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:25 am
by JPMASSON

Hello
Just Trains (Just Flight) has developed a "Lille (France) to Ashford " route, including of course the Channel Tunnel and both Eurotunnel terminals, which is sold as an add-on to MSTS (one CD) with some rolling stock (TGV réseau, Thalys, Corail coaches and SNCF engine... but no Eurostar). The accuracy is rather approximative : the tunnel is not straight but a bit winding, there is no cab-signal and the signal plates which should be about 1 mile from each other are present on top of all catenary supports. But it works...
Bye !
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:33 am
by LucaZone
The real tunnel isnt straight either.....

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:40 am
by 1288gaje
Wouldnt you much prefer the modern CTRL route that is to open in 2007?
I would prefer the modern one.........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello
Just Trains (Just Flight) has developed a "Lille (France) to Ashford " route, including of course the Channel Tunnel and both Eurotunnel terminals, which is sold as an add-on to MSTS (one CD) with some rolling stock (TGV réseau, Thalys, Corail coaches and SNCF engine... but no Eurostar). The accuracy is rather approximative : the tunnel is not straight but a bit winding, there is no cab-signal and the signal plates which should be about 1 mile from each other are present on top of all catenary supports. But it works...
Bye !
joeholmes....
I rather advise you not to buy the Just Trains version,cos the file is
MUCH bigger than the routes provided by MSTS.
I would rather recommend if you bought the European Bahn's version of the Channel Tunnel.
Is that right, LucaZone?
Thanks

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:29 pm
by Lad491
Well actually the Just Trains version is Europeanbahns

I think it was one of the first routes they did. I have it and its great for thrashing along at high speed. It has a small signalling bug which i rectified easily but other than that I found it very enjoyable. Whether its authentic or not i wouldn't know, but then i wouldn't know if 95% of the routes I have are authentic as ive never visited half the places modelled.
But of course vCTRL is a different kettle of fish all together and will be worth the wait.

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:29 pm
by simont
The original EB TGV route is fictional.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:03 am
by 1288gaje
simont wrote:The original EB TGV route is fictional.
And who would get a Thalys and TGV in the Channel Tunnel in real life?
As a huge Eurostar fan is there a route from lets say waterloo to paris out there......
Why Waterloo?
Waterloo to Paris will be quite big...?
London-Lille looks good...
Any chance of including Dollands Moor...?
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:45 am
by LucaZone
Yep Dollands Moor Yard is in place on vCTRL.
Sandling Tunnel to the left, and Eurotunnel approaches to the right. Also the Dover Line curving south.

Its not a 100% exact replica, but is able to serve the same purposes
There is a few french guys developing the Paris - Waterloo - Brussels route, however it is semi fictional from what I have seen. They are concentrating on simulating the various signals and operational practices rather than creating authenticity. From their co-ordinates I think it was plotted that in real life, their London Waterloo location would been northern france.
However this route is being worked on by developers who are constantly tied up in other work, and at the moment I think it has been put to one side while they get other things completed.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:52 am
by BR7MT
LucaZone - are you working from official L&CR drawings of the route, gradient profiles etc?
Regards
Dan
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:02 am
by LucaZone
Yes, all 26 pages of it hehe
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:02 am
by Lad491
And who would get a Thalys and TGV in the Channel Tunnel in real life
Haven't played it in a while but i think the Thalys stock was only used in activities on the French side of the tunnel, with convention UK stock on the English side.

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:26 am
by simont
But there wasn't any UK stock...
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:31 am
by LucaZone
Probably why it was called TGV TrainSim Pack

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:35 am
by BR7MT
LucaZone wrote:Yes, all 26 pages of it hehe
Gradients go up and down more time than a yo-yo
Regards
Dan