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ash888 wrote:I don't bother with using the EB forums because my yahoo e-mail address has been banned for some strange reason :o (dunno why because i have never used it at EB :-?). So i can't sign up and take part in their forums. But not to worry though as there is ukts and t-s forums that i can use freely :). Maybe thats how they reward their customers considering i have 3 of their products and i can't seem to get a contact e-mail address for EB to ask why my yahoo e-mail address has been blocked on their forums :roll:.

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The terms & conditions that you had to click 'I agree / Disagree' clearly said that an Internet based email address was not allowed to be used. This was to prevent people signing up with multiple accounts. You of course read that before trying to sign up with an email address that was not allowed.

Contact information is still clearly accessible from the 'Contact Us' button on the main page of the website.

Please make sure you read the information provided on the website, before making accusations that EB doesnt treat its customers very well.
A bit of a silly decison really for EB, as they where blocking out quite a lot of their target market. I do not know of another MSTS forum that 'blocks' internet based emails ( isn't every email internet based? ;))

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London Liverpool street to Norwich....
It's not up to Norwich...
It's up to Ipswich....... :D
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rwaceyw wrote:
LucaZone wrote:
ash888 wrote:I don't bother with using the EB forums because my yahoo e-mail address has been banned for some strange reason :o (dunno why because i have never used it at EB :-?). So i can't sign up and take part in their forums. But not to worry though as there is ukts and t-s forums that i can use freely :). Maybe thats how they reward their customers considering i have 3 of their products and i can't seem to get a contact e-mail address for EB to ask why my yahoo e-mail address has been blocked on their forums :roll:.

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The terms & conditions that you had to click 'I agree / Disagree' clearly said that an Internet based email address was not allowed to be used. This was to prevent people signing up with multiple accounts. You of course read that before trying to sign up with an email address that was not allowed.

Contact information is still clearly accessible from the 'Contact Us' button on the main page of the website.

Please make sure you read the information provided on the website, before making accusations that EB doesnt treat its customers very well.
A bit of a silly decison really for EB, as they where blocking out quite a lot of their target market. I do not know of another MSTS forum that 'blocks' internet based emails ( isn't every email internet based? ;))

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rwaceyw wrote:
LucaZone wrote:
ash888 wrote:
I don't bother with using the EB forums because my yahoo e-mail address has been banned for some strange reason (dunno why because i have never used it at EB ). So i can't sign up and take part in their forums. But not to worry though as there is ukts and t-s forums that i can use freely . Maybe thats how they reward their customers considering i have 3 of their products and i can't seem to get a contact e-mail address for EB to ask why my yahoo e-mail address has been blocked on their forums .

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The terms & conditions that you had to click 'I agree / Disagree' clearly said that an Internet based email address was not allowed to be used. This was to prevent people signing up with multiple accounts. You of course read that before trying to sign up with an email address that was not allowed.

Contact information is still clearly accessible from the 'Contact Us' button on the main page of the website.

Please make sure you read the information provided on the website, before making accusations that EB doesnt treat its customers very well.


A bit of a silly decison really for EB, as they where blocking out quite a lot of their target market. I do not know of another MSTS forum that 'blocks' internet based emails ( isn't every email internet based? )

David


To be fair, MT do too.
MT won't accept Hotmail and Yahoo.
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And now European Bahn won't let me sign in the Development page.
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1288gaje wrote:
rwaceyw wrote:
A bit of a silly decison really for EB, as they where blocking out quite a lot of their target market. I do not know of another MSTS forum that 'blocks' internet based emails ( isn't every email internet based? )

David

Me wrote:To be fair, MT do too.
MT won't accept Hotmail and Yahoo.

Jeees, read what people have written.
I just said that MT do not accept internet email accounts either !
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1288gaje wrote:And now European Bahn won't let me sign in the Development page.
And maybe its a restricted page for developers..........

I give up with you. Not everything everyone does is anything to do with everyone else you know. And it just not make someone . just because they have a page you can't access.
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buffy500 wrote:
rwaceyw wrote:
LucaZone wrote: The terms & conditions that you had to click 'I agree / Disagree' clearly said that an Internet based email address was not allowed to be used. This was to prevent people signing up with multiple accounts. You of course read that before trying to sign up with an email address that was not allowed.

Contact information is still clearly accessible from the 'Contact Us' button on the main page of the website.

Please make sure you read the information provided on the website, before making accusations that EB doesnt treat its customers very well.
A bit of a silly decison really for EB, as they where blocking out quite a lot of their target market. I do not know of another MSTS forum that 'blocks' internet based emails ( isn't every email internet based? ;))

David
To be fair, MT do too.
How come you accepted my Yahoo! email address?

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There are massive login problems......
And you don't need to answer this??

Somehow I have been banned from the MT forum.
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Hi All

I have never been refused acceptance on any MSTS related site and have never been banned either.

I know the rules beforehand and respect the rules - in return I get all the assistance I require with courtesy and in a very timely manner and it gives me great pleasure to also assist others who require help.

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An hour to go...
and I'm back in MT forums...
I will be a good boy................!!!!!!!!
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1288gaje wrote:There are massive login problems......
And you don't need to answer this??

Somehow I have been banned from the MT forum.
Buffy,you know who I am>>>>>>>
Odd, l couldnt possible see why that might be ?.

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LucaZone wrote:
Myself wrote:I don't bother with using the EB forums because my yahoo e-mail address has been banned for some strange reason :o (dunno why because i have never used it at EB :-?). So i can't sign up and take part in their forums. But not to worry though as there is ukts and t-s forums that i can use freely :). Maybe thats how they reward their customers considering i have 3 of their products and i can't seem to get a contact e-mail address for EB to ask why my yahoo e-mail address has been blocked on their forums :roll:.

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The terms & conditions that you had to click 'I agree / Disagree' clearly said that an Internet based email address was not allowed to be used. This was to prevent people signing up with multiple accounts. You of course read that before trying to sign up with an email address that was not allowed.

Contact information is still clearly accessible from the 'Contact Us' button on the main page of the website.

Please make sure you read the information provided on the website, before making accusations that EB doesnt treat its customers very well.
Its not exactly making accusations about EB but most users on the net have Yahoo or MSN accounts as some users that buy your products either don't use non-web e-mail providers or they have probably lost the log-in details to those accounts like myself. Also your company is shutting out most of its customers by not allowing those with the net e-mail addresses to take part. Also it should not matter if they open up a new account because the forum user may have lost their log in details such as coded passwords for example which can be difficult to remember and sometimes e-mails with the requested details be also lost on the e-mail servers :-?. But if that's how commercial developers are making their forums hard to sign-up to then some people will go elsewhere and stick with other companys that value their customers and welcome them to their forums :wink:. I am not pulling EB down in any way but i think they should rethink the polercy on users signing up to use their forums really :).
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ash888 wrote:i think they should rethink the polercy on users signing up to use their forums really :).
They did.
They closed them.

And having seen the way some idiots posted never ending bilge on there, I'm not suprised.
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ash888 wrote:some users that buy your products either don't use non-web e-mail providers or they have probably lost the log-in details to those accounts like myself.
This can be rectified by simply emailing your Internet Service provider and proving who you are, to reobtain the details.
ash888 wrote:Your company is shutting out most of its customers by not allowing those with the net e-mail addresses to take part.
90% of EB's customers are barely internet users at all. Thus they are unlikely to have ventured around and found non-ISP related email services.
ash888 wrote:It should not matter if they open up a new account because the forum user may have lost their log in details such as coded passwords for example which can be difficult to remember and sometimes e-mails with the requested details be also lost on the e-mail servers :-?.
It does matter if multiple accounts are opened, as it wastes our time trying to work out who needs support and who doesnt. The potential to have multi-accounts is also open to abuse by less desireable people who have nothing constructive to say, require no support, and just want to flame and be nasty. Not something we wanted.

It wouldnt be wise to create a password or username to a support site, that is too difficult to remember, as you may very well forget it! However if you did, a quick email to the support address can have your details recovered, and you can continue with the same login.
ash888 wrote:commercial developers are making their forums hard to sign-up to then some people will go elsewhere and stick with other companys that value their customers and welcome them to their forums
Europeanbahns forums were never hard to sign up to, and in many cases were easier than some more recent ones. There were over 1000 registered users on the old EB forums before they were discontinued. That should indicate that being able to sign up wasnt an issue.
ash888 wrote:I think they should rethink the polercy on users signing up to use their forums really
We did rethink our policy (which was soley to provide support and assistance to customers), and we decided that the forum was not able to support our customers enough, so we moved to direct email communication instead, which allows for much more personalised and quicker responses to issues.


If you suffer any issues with an EB product Ash888, be sure to email supportateuropeanbahn.co.uk about it. There is no limitation as to where you can email that address forum, and there is no signing up required. All you need to do is prove you own the product. :)

Surely thats way easier than having to read T&C's, get qualified email addresses, and create complex passwords to a forum before you can get anything back!
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